CJW Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I shoot a .40S&W STI Edge. I run it major power factor for USPSA; for 3-Gun, I usually swap springs and run it at minor PF, but have the option of shooting full power if I am looking at spinners or other troublesome steel targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I run the same old 169-171 power factor ammo for everything. That way when I have to shoot a 1/3 gun match that has power factor I don't feel like the gun blew up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 +1. I only run major PF in my 40's and 45's. Too complicated changing loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT-NV Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 +1. I only run major PF in my 40's and 45's. Too complicated changing loads. + 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just change from loading 180gr Montana Gold JHP bullets to 155 MG JHP bullets and keep the primer, powder, OAL the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I ran 40 for a while, did a comparison w my bro in law. He ran a sig 226 9mm,w 155 gr rounds, i ran a 226 in 165 gr 40,...I did better running the 9 in speed and target acquisition. He agreed, did thesame and felt the same. I like the 40 power, but i don't want to spend time screwing w loads to get 9 mm type recoil and consistency out of a 40. Factory ammo for a 9 has been less, so I decided not to fix my stuff till it was broke. Today I run 9mm for 3 gun,everything else is 40 for work. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 For what it is worth, it takes me about 30 seconds to switch from major to minor PF. I have two Dawson toolless guide rods for my STI Edge, with different springs. I take down the slide, swap rods, and reassemble. I run Atlanta Arms remanufactured 180gr .40S&W at 1.180 OAL, which they sell in both major PF (chronos at 169–170 at matches) and minor PF (which I have not chrono'ed). The minor 180gr is pretty much like shooting 147gr 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS761 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I started out in USPSA with an XDm 4.5 in .40 shooting Production. Gravitated to loading .40 minor because why not, then gravitated into 3 gun, then Limited Minor. I like my pistol, it runs, and has been plenty versatile for me. Basically I took the advice I got on Enos from day one, run what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsville Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I know I am the oddball but I prefer my .40 downloaded to about 140 or so with a 180. Stupid soft, steel falls, I use the same projectiles for both USPSA and 3G. I get 21 reloadable so an extra reload every once in a while doesn't carry more weight than what I perceive as the benefits. Call me crazy. Not crazy...i do the exact same thing. I download with lighter spring but adjusted load to run action like i want....it's around pf140 or so....it is easy to control when your using to shooting Major in IPSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djeffers Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Those of you shooting 9mm are you using 124 or 147? I switched to 9mm just because I get more bullets for the $$$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Join us in USPSA Heavy Metal. The Optics division uses a .308 rifle, 12-ga, and .40+ Limited-10 pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Join us in USPSA Heavy Metal. The Optics division uses a .308 rifle, 12-ga, and .40+ Limited-10 pistol. What are the limitations on the shotgun type? Pump only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can't speak for all matches, but most matches I've shot in the last couple years "Heavy Metal" allowed auto, I run a Versamax. Typically same rules as Tactical, 8, or 8+1 to start, after the buzzer can load her up. If the match calls it "He-Man" typically that is 12 ga pump, 8 round max, and single stack, often .45 only. I'll probably be taken to task for mistakes or oversimplifying here, but that's what I've seen lately. As to the .40, some matches limit you to 10 rounds in the mag (common to use high caps, just count when you're liading them) but many allow as many as you can stuff into a 140. Heavy Metal/ He-man is a ton-o-fun, especially seeing the reactive rifle targets dance! No question on the hits with flashers... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Those of you shooting 9mm are you using 124 or 147? I switched to 9mm just because I get more bullets for the $$$$$. I use 147s, partially because I like the recoil better at the same PF, and partly because I like making the steel go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Join us in USPSA Heavy Metal. The Optics division uses a .308 rifle, 12-ga, and .40+ Limited-10 pistol. What are the limitations on the shotgun type? Pump only? For the Optics division that allows a .40 Limited-10 pistol, the shotgun can be a semi-auto, tube-fed. Only the Heavy Metal Limited (my division) requires the shotgun to be a pump-action, but then you'd have to have a .44+ Revolver or Limited-10 pistol. These are the USPSA Multigun rules. I'm not up to speed on other sanctioning bodies yet; though I will be doing the He-Man Nationals in New Mexico this Spring, and the biggest difference is that I am allowed to put a 1x optic on my rifle. I haven't decided if I'm going to do it yet, though. Edited March 5, 2015 by MAC702 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jacket Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 For you guys running 40 minor with 180s. What recoil spring weight do you use. I recently loaded a few with 3.2 grs Titegroup and my 12.5 # spring was too much. I was thinking of trying a 10#. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 For you guys running 40 minor with 180s. What recoil spring weight do you use. I recently loaded a few with 3.2 grs Titegroup and my 12.5 # spring was too much. I was thinking of trying a 10#. ThanksI think 10# would be way too light. I would try 11# and 12#. For me, I started with an 11# Wolff, went to 12#,then ended up with a 12.5# ISMI. The guide rod makes a difference, too. The RecoilMaster that came in my Dawson STI seemed to like a lighter spring than the Dawson toolless I switched to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 For you guys running 40 minor with 180s. What recoil spring weight do you use. I recently loaded a few with 3.2 grs Titegroup and my 12.5 # spring was too much. I was thinking of trying a 10#. Thanks 2011 platform I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarvinPilgrim Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I'm always the odd-ball but I still run my G24 .40cal. I started with 40 & just like you OP, I had all the gear, mags & reloading material & I didn't want to buy all new 9mm stuff. I rarely see a stage where being a couple rounds shy of the 9mm guys hurts me and shooting an almost major load with 180's, I never have a problem with the steel failing to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairmckenzie1 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 +1. I only run major PF in my 40's and 45's. Too complicated changing loads. + 2 But to be fair it doesn't matter what your power factor is when your name is steve ting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Run 40 minor here for 3 gun as I have the limited guns that I run and see no reason to change or buy a new gun for 3 extra rounds in the mag. If needed a reload can be done somewhere. Just not worth the expense to me to try and justify buying a dedicated 3 gun 9mm when there isn't any real difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT-NV Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 +1. I only run major PF in my 40's and 45's. Too complicated changing loads. + 2 But to be fair it doesn't matter what your power factor is when your name is steve ting... And here I thought you were a nice guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jacket Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thanks I just ordered a 10 and 11 pound spring. Figured I would give them a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If your going to play THAT game go with 155's, 10# spring, and a big smile. Don't count on heavy steel going down. Gave them a try and came to the conclusion that its great for burning a hole in cardboard but heavy steel and spinners your better off with 180's. The 155's are good for steel challenge or maybe a pro-am steel game with light steel. Its like shooting a 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mthomas0001 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I have been running a 165 coated bullet from Black Bullets International with 4.3 grains of WST on a 9lb. variable recoil spring. That combo has been great. The .40 is awesome when your buddies at the match hammer targets w loaded down 9mm and the poppers sit there and laugh at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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