Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I was reading another thread today and noticed one person mentioned that the EAA Witness Stock II was not IDPA Legal. This was one of the unicorns I had on my short list of pistols to purchase, I don't see why it wouldn't be legal. I know it is flirting with legal weight limit, but hopefully with lighter grips in my come within weight. I think it would be a fantastic IDPA SSP, USPSA Prod, and USPSA Limited pistol to have, right? Edited January 13, 2015 by Butterpuc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Its because is bull barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 and a full dust cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Its because is bull barrel Yep, I see that now, I hadn't given that any thought. I still think I want it. 8.1.7.3. Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing except as allowed in ESP and CDP divisions with length restrictions and a full dust cover That shouldn't keep it out should it, at least not in SSP. I think the CZ 75 SP-01 is SSP Legal, which makes it ESP Legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I guess that should've been a question rather than a statement since I've never shot IDPA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I guess that should've been a question rather than a statement since I've never shot IDPA... My title was meant to have a question mark in it... Oops I'm thankful you responded, I have enjoyed reading many of your posts on the Tanfo line. I have never had the opportunity to shoot one, I have a friend that is going to loan me his Witness Elite Limited... I'm afraid I will love it to much and want a Stock 2 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwinG Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Could you replace the barrel with a non-bull one to make it legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 ^^^ Dont think is posible Besides it will take some of the magic out of that Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I guess that should've been a question rather than a statement since I've never shot IDPA...My title was meant to have a question mark in it... OopsI'm thankful you responded, I have enjoyed reading many of your posts on the Tanfo line. I have never had the opportunity to shoot one, I have a friend that is going to loan me his Witness Elite Limited... I'm afraid I will love it to much and want a Stock 2 also. I own both and love them, the Tanfos are great pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck s Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 the limited pro is the best all around gun eaa sells. idpa,uspsa legal and feels virtually identical to the stock 2. very hard to come by in 9mm, but a .40 shoots very nice also, in minor loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 the limited pro is the best all around gun eaa sells. idpa,uspsa legal and feels virtually identical to the stock 2. very hard to come by in 9mm, but a .40 shoots very nice also, in minor loading. I have seen one of these at an IDPA match once. He won the match, it looked very soft shooting. This is also a contender, but it just isn't as cool looking to me... does that make a bad person It probably is the best choice, since I jump around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Get yourself a CZ Shadow ....be cool and play all games at once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Get yourself a CZ Shadow ....be cool and play all games at once I have thought about a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow, for a long time. I don't have a lot of CZ/Tanfo knowledge, but isn't it a small frame compared to the Tanfo Limited Pro/Stock2/Elite Limited which are large frames? As far as SSP/Prod I can see it being very viable, but USPSA Limited mag capacity would suffer. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 CZ comes with 18rnds 9mm mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Get yourself a CZ Shadow ....be cool and play all games at once I have thought about a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow, for a long time. I don't have a lot of CZ/Tanfo knowledge, but isn't it a small frame compared to the Tanfo Limited Pro/Stock2/Elite Limited which are large frames? As far as SSP/Prod I can see it being very viable, but USPSA Limited mag capacity would suffer. Am I right? 9mm capacity is the same between small and large frame CZ75 pattern pistols (23-24 in a 141.25mm mag), it's .40 where the large frame (or TS wide body small frame) shines (21 vs 15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The magazine limitations for .40 is the reason why I went with an Elite Match over the CZ75. In 9mm, I prefer the smaller frame of the CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The stock 2 has a straight barrel, just like the limited pro - just shorter. The Stock 1 has the bull conical barrel. It is not allowed in IDPA due to the full length dust cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The stock 2 has a straight barrel, just like the limited pro - just shorter. The Stock 1 has the bull conical barrel. It is not allowed in IDPA due to the full length dust cover. Stock 1 & 2 have cone barrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The stock 2 has a straight barrel, just like the limited pro - just shorter. The Stock 1 has the bull conical barrel. It is not allowed in IDPA due to the full length dust cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 You can run a full length dust cover in SSP. As much as I like this gun, I looks I would need to pick up a CZ75 SP-01 Shadow instead if I want it to perform double duty with SSP/Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Its because is bull barrel Yep, I see that now, I hadn't given that any thought. I still think I want it. 8.1.7.3. Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing except as allowed in ESP and CDP divisions with length restrictions I downloaded the new IDPA rulebook today to have something to read on my plane trip, and noticed that this rule is no longer listed. So I'm thinking the Stock II is now legal for SSP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hmm, sure 'nuff. And if it is legal for SSP, it is automatically legal for ESP. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 I went to the website to download a new rule book and still see the 8.1.7.3 rule, I must not be downloading the most current rule book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yeah, I'm not sure why they haven't put the 2015 version available from where you normally download it yet. I stumbled across it here: http://www.idpa.com/misc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Hmm, sure 'nuff. And if it is legal for SSP, it is automatically legal for ESP. Oops. Correct, but doesn't it have to meet all other SSP requirements if used in ESP (ie. no ESP specific modifications)? If so, what does this gain you, other than being able to start cocked-n-locked, and classifying in ESP with the same gun as you classified in SSP? Edited February 13, 2015 by BrazeauRacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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