GBTX01 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 It looks as though Leupold has come out with some new scopes. I am very interested in their new 1.5-5x20 SPR scope. A couple of new low power scopes. A 1st focal plane reticle and a new "Special Purpose" reticle. Optics Talk: New Leupold line-up for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 nifty, just wish the darn things weren't so pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 The only thing that matters is field of view & focus. What are they on this scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 There's the new reticle...and here's the juicy new specs. Looks like there is an illuminated and non-illuminated version. Product Highlights The latest addition to the Precision Rifle line-up, the Mark 4 1.5-5x20mm PR offers magnification optimized for close-range engagements and is designed to be especially useful in police/tactical applications. Product Specifications Actual Magnification: 1.5(1.5x) 4.5(5x) Length (in): 9.3 Eyepiece Length (in): 3.1 Objective Length (in): N/A Objective Diameter (in): 1.0 Eyepiece Diameter (in): 1.6 Tube Diameter: 1.0in Weight: 9.7 oz. / 275 grams Eye Relief (in): 4.4(1.5x) 3.6(5x) Eye Relief (mm): 113(1.5x) 93(5x) Obj. Lens Diameter: .8in / 20mm Max. Adjustment @ 100 yds (in): 120 FOV @ 100 yds (ft): 65.7(1.5x) 23.9(5x) FOV @ 100 m (m): 21.9(1.5x) 7.9(5x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Looks sexy to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Ooh! That's going to be stiff competition for the Horus Vision ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 When ever they come around here - I want one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I wish they came up with a 1x-4x with a true 1x. I have a Leup. VXIII 1.5x-5x and find it too slow on close stuff compared to a dot or a true 1x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I wish they came up with a 1x-4x with a true 1x. I have a Leup. VXIII 1.5x-5x and find it too slow on close stuff compared to a dot or a true 1x. Do you think the presence of the ring in the reticle might help with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I wish they came up with a 1x-4x with a true 1x. I have a Leup. VXIII 1.5x-5x and find it too slow on close stuff compared to a dot or a true 1x. Do you think the presence of the ring in the reticle might help with that? Maybe, but I think the magnification slows things down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 If I'm reading the reticle correcly, it looks like the ring is 10 MOA, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGDM Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 The ring and dot will be illuminated too. That might be of some assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I'm sad to report I was totally underwhelmed with this scope at the SHOT SHOW. The reticle is not very distinct. It is not a 1 or 1.1X. Exposed turrets which will allow self-adjusting during a match. Now the Nightforce 1-4X, that was interesting but clearly none of these manufacturers talk to people that shoot a lot. The Nightforce had some dumb reticles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 The Horus Vision Talon was also disapointing to look at. The glass was not clear or sharp and had a yellowish tint. The center dot is 4 moa which is probably too big for 8-10 plates at 300 yds. And why would they put their grid system on a scope reticle thats made for short to mid range distances? Why would someone need that much hold over at mid range distances? It is also way over priced at around $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 If your shooting 8 to 10 in. plates at 300 yds. you would be below the dot into the grid the real problem is in the 150 to 250 yd. area on 6 in. plates. It can be done with a little practice but would be simple with a 2 min. dot. On close stuff it rocks. I've shot out to 700 yds. on IPSC sized targets with great results. I have also contacted Horus Vision with the suggestion of a smaller center dot. We'll see if they are interested in shooter input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 If I'm reading the reticle correcly, it looks like the ring is 10 MOA, no? 5 mils * 3.6" = 18" or 18 MOA radius 18 MOA x 2 = 36 MOA width Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Heidkamp Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I was dissapointed with the scopes at the Shot Show too. The only scope that absolutely ROCKED was the new 5-25 Schmidt & Bender and it won't be available until June - check our website then for pricing Way nicer than any other scope I have seen to date. All I can say is "wow." IOR Valdada has a true 1x variable, as did Nightforce. I didn't see the Horus 1x - but I was in their booth looking for a new LR scope. Personally, I hate shelling out almost $1,000 for a 1x variable. That is too much for my blood! Maybe OK if you are a government agency with specific needs - but for 3-gun, ouch! For now, the setup I'm using is an old variable with an extra scope ring holding a chunk of weaver rail mounted upside down holding a Docter red dot. Works pretty slick - if you need magnification there is usually time to get your head down into a good cheekweld - if the targets are so close to be able to use a dot, you lose the strong cheekweld but it doesn't really matter as there isn't much parallax issue at those ranges and you can just hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbs007 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I was decided on getting the scope pictured above when available, but after reading what you guys saw at the SHOT Show, I am again lost in the dark. Any comments on the Mark 4 CQ/T for 3-gun or should I go with an ACOG? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 or should I go with an ACOG? I think the ACOG with a set of handguard mounted iron sights (made by JP) for Tactical division, or a red dot secondary sight on the handguard for Open division is the hot shjt way to go for 3 gun. No adjustments needed, just twist the rifle and you get a different sight. No remembering that it is still on 1x while looking for the 300 yard plate etc. No brain fade, two fixed sights, pick one and shoot. JMO anyway. -- Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Or you can be like Mike Voigt and just shoot an ACOG. He does pretty well. There is NO winning scope. I have seen major 3 gun matches won with a Leupold 3-9X, ACOG TA11, US Optics SN4, a Leupold 1.5-5X, an IOR 1.1-4X, a Trij 1.25-4X, a Holosight and even Bennie Hill's 1.5-5X Simmons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Or you can be like Mike Voigt and just shoot an ACOG. That truly is keeping it simple ;-) Kelly speaks truth about the best setup being what works for a specific shooter and that all the different setups can win if they have the right rider aboard. Heck, I’ve only tried three, or four different things to get to what I am happy with at the moment. Now for a better rider :-) -- Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJL Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 (edited) Has anyone tried the new Leupold 1.5-5x Mk4 scopes with the SPR reticle ? I had the opportunity to see the scope at the Shot Show but have not had the chance to "shoot" it. I am interested in some feedback regarding the reticle's use for 3 gun. Moderator Edit: This post was a new topic created by WJL. I merged it with this older topic. Edited February 25, 2005 by Erik Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 The scope isn't going to be out for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowsure Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Anybody notice the gold ring paved over with black? Is the word tactical in the product discription? Or do I smell China? I havent seen/touched one but just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJL Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 It's definintely going to expensive. The rep has been telling me the scopes should be out and about and I figured someone would have had their hands on one by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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