darkmod Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hi guys, been having nothing but trouble with my 1050 since I got it. I'm about to throw it off a cliff Long story short: I'm still not able to cycle the machine without it throwing powder everywhere. I bought a bearing system that just created more problems, when I uninstalled it, it ran strangely for like 20 rounds then jammed somehow..... The toolhead wouldn't go down more than halfway without feeling like it hit a rock, I didn't force it because it was a very affirmative stop that it came to. At any rate, I took the tool head off along with the Shellplate and sprayed, vacuumed, and cleaned everything. Put it all back together and not it won't go up more than 3/4 of the way. It won't go all the way down either. It did crush a .223 case right at the shoulder though, it's literally stuck between 1/2 and 3/4 of its stroke. I'm at my wits end with this thing. I'd call dillon but they only happen to be open at the exact times I'm at work, and they are closed when I happen to get off work. Any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Did you clean the priming system too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalebg Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Remove the primer tube and primer slide bar, you may have a primer cockeyed in the slide bar...or back off the Allen bolt on the primer lever located on the primer tube....slide the assembly up and check to make sure the primer slide bar isn't stuck...you can also remove the the plastic locator tab on station 3 to get a better view of the to the primer slide bar...before you reinstall anything, make sure that the primer slide bar moves back and forth completely and smooth as glass. A stuck primer, stuck slide bar or dirty priming system will prevent the machine from cycling completely/ smoothly. Good Luck, don't pull your hair out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 If you have the safety ratchet installed it would keep you from moving the tool head back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) The" rock" you hit on 1/2 way thru the handle pull is probably the indexing rod on the head hitting an out of sync shell plate... Eta; Sounds like you are running 223, are you loading 223 or processing brass? Edited September 12, 2014 by RiggerJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghthwk1911 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I will say this, almost all "Stoppages" of the 1050 can be narrowed down to one of these three things... 1. there is something in the station one that is not allowing the de-priming pin to punch out the spent primer (this is the least of them). 2. the primer was not fully ejected from the brass before it got to station 2 for swaging. Damn crimped brass. make sure you have the correct de-capping pins from Dillon (yes there were some that were short). 3. Something caused the primer to get smooshed in the primer slide, be that a not fully swaged primer pocket or what have you. This is the single most likely cause for the press to not move, or the "Hit a Rock". Other then that it should would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Post where you are so someone that knows the 1050 can come over and help you set it up. It is most likely one or two things that they can trouble shoot while being in front of the press.....or call DILLON! DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmod Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Great guys! Thanks! I'm going to try all these suggestions. I live in Tustin, ca by the way. I was loading .223 when this happened and when the press fully locked I was trying to cycle an empty Shellplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Step 1... Remove tool head and priming assembly... Now, does it cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 > there is something in the station one that is not allowing the de-priming pin to punch out the spent primer (this is the least of them). You mean station 2? Next, when you install the toolhead, be sure if is all the way down (aligned) before tightening the bolt If the problem is simply that the movement of the shell plate is throwing powder out of the case, then tighten the shell plate more, move the handle slower and smoother, place a finger over the charged case as it moves to the next station, install a poly ball in place of the steel shell plate alignment ball, or, if a Super, install a thrust bearing. Tustin always sounds like a disease or cough syrup to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmod Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Ok, ive moderately fixed the situation. The jam was primer related, i had to raise the lever while jiggling the primer shuttle arm and it went into the up position. From there i was able to dissasemble (and learn alot about the priming assembly in the process) an reassemble everything again. That fixed the jamming problem, the shellplate stil flings powder everywhere, ive tightened it down to the point the shellplate locks, then backed off 1/8 of a turn. No avail. I will just have to reconcile myself with the fact that i need to operate the 1050 much smoother, and therefore slower, than a 650. If i go super slow there is a very minimal amount of powder spillage, but now im thinking i just chuck this thing off a cliff, buy another 650 toolhead, and load on the 650. If it wasnt for the swaging operation i would have thrown this thing in the garbage disposal already. Or maybe there is a clever way to only prep my brass on the 1050 and load on the 650, that would fix the problem i guess since there would be no powder charge to spill. Only bummer is id have to prelube the cases and make a mess of my case feeder Edited September 13, 2014 by darkmod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjacobs Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If you let the shell plate snap to the next station, you get powder spillage. If you are smooth with it(which takes time) that last 1" or so of throw is where the shell plate advances. After 10k rounds your main spring will be worn enough that it wont advance at all on its own anyway so just start loading! When I have new guys come use my 1050 they tend to sling powder around because they arent being smooth and trying to run it to fast. I get on it and everything runs smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 When the case is advancing from powder drop to seat put your finger on the case to keep the powder in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 now im thinking i just chuck this thing off a cliff, buy another 650 toolhead, and load on the 650 Tell you what, chunk it in a box and PM me your address and I'll swap you an entire 650 already set up for .223, I'll even cover shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDIS46 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 now im thinking i just chuck this thing off a cliff, buy another 650 toolhead, and load on the 650 Tell you what, chunk it in a box and PM me your address and I'll swap you an entire 650 already set up for .223, I'll even cover shipping. Damn, you beat me to the punch on that one but I'll add my 2 cents worth..... If you are going to chuck it, then chuck it my way (San Diego) or bring it down and we can work on it together. (My wife would literally kill me if I bought a third 1050........) LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjim Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Ok, ive moderately fixed the situation. The jam was primer related, i had to raise the lever while jiggling the primer shuttle arm and it went into the up position. From there i was able to dissasemble (and learn alot about the priming assembly in the process) an reassemble everything again. That fixed the jamming problem, the shellplate stil flings powder everywhere, ive tightened it down to the point the shellplate locks, then backed off 1/8 of a turn. No avail. I will just have to reconcile myself with the fact that i need to operate the 1050 much smoother, and therefore slower, than a 650. If i go super slow there is a very minimal amount of powder spillage, but now im thinking i just chuck this thing off a cliff, buy another 650 toolhead, and load on the 650. If it wasnt for the swaging operation i would have thrown this thing in the garbage disposal already. Or maybe there is a clever way to only prep my brass on the 1050 and load on the 650, that would fix the problem i guess since there would be no powder charge to spill. Only bummer is id have to prelube the cases and make a mess of my case feeder Clean the case feeder after each use. What lube you using, i'm running dillons and the lanolin / 90 something% alcohol mix. Both dry prior to dropping in case feeder. I'm processing 223 & 9 on the 1050, after tumbling lube off load on the 650's. Edited September 23, 2014 by cjim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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