MJPLEO Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm running out of my former stockpile of "match" factory 75gr .223 ammo, and given the cost of the same round (now about 55 cents per round), it's probably time to find a better factory round, something that is less costly but still "good enough" for 10" steel plates at 450yds. "Good enough" here means <2MOA but not necessarily <1MOA. Basically, I'm looking for something that is cheap enough that I won't feel bad using it for the close-range IPSC targets but just barely good enough to hit the long-range targets without costing as much as the "match" ammo. In other words: .223 or 5.56 factory new (I do not reload any more and do not trust reloaded ammo) bullet does not attract a magnet between the cost of brass-cased 55gr factory new ammo (approx 35 cents per thousand now) and 69gr "match" factory new ammo (as low as 50 cents per thousand now). Closer to 35 cents per round is better than closer to 50 cents per round, obviously. consistently <2MOA I figure there has to be something "in between" or "all-purpose" or "best all-around" ammo for the 3-gun sport. Muzzle velocity doesn't matter to me so much as tight grouping. If it matters, I am currently running a MSTN/Noveske JLT 17" rifle-gas 1/8 twist "Mod 0" chamber barrel that was sub-MOA when new. Not sure what MOA it shoots now, but it's certainly less than 2MOA with the 75gr PRVI Partizan match .223 I am running now. Thanks in advance. Sir, My rifle loves Federal XM193. I'm running a 13.7" Rainier Ultra Match barrel and getting right at MOA with XM193 that's still running just north of 3000fps. Hope this helps a bit. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm getting a solid 3150-3200 from American Eagle. 20" J.P. barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esskay Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 For those who are using the American Eagle 55gr what velocities are you getting at the muzzle? It is advertised at 3240 (24" test barrel) fps but so was the Freedom Munitions which chronoed for me at 2797 with a Nordic Components 18" Wylde barrel and a Seekins ATC muzzle break. I had a chance to confirm my zero at 100 yards the other day but my chrono was too hot to see the screen. Thanks for the help. I was getting ~3000 fps from AE in my 16" JP. XM in the same barrel was low 3100s. XM out of my Nordic 18 was around 3300 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guns Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Alma: Out of an 18" Nordic barrel with a Miculek comp, my average fps for AE 55gr is 3057. Low 3036, max 3096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Alma: Out of an 18" Nordic barrel with a Miculek comp, my average fps for AE 55gr is 3057. Low 3036, max 3096 Thank you very for the responses. Alma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Gene Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Atlanta Arms does not post prices on their website. Call or email them and they will send you price lists. I just call them and order direct. It works just great and they are super easy to deal with. wg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry weeks Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Hope this doesn't repeat, I think I hit a wrong button. I've had great luck using ASYM 75 gr for the longer range stuff. Hornady Tap 75 also shoots well. Both are around a buck a piece but if I can hit at 350 using my EOTech, I'll pay the price. XM 193 does fine out to 200 but by 400 group sizes double compared to the ASYM or Tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have been pleasantly surprised by the consistency and quality of the AE55s that KurtM is using. It runs fine, it is not sub MOA, but just a shade over out of my ARs. I have used the Hornady Steel Match, yes, a tad slow, fine for blaster range, and accurate. However, multiple handling of it does remove the dry lube. In the 75 grain, it won't function well in my PMags, but works fine in the Lancers and GI mags. If I had to buy 69s, the Black Hills would be on my short list. Always have had 100% function and <1 MOA with that stuff. It was the first ammo I shot back in 2005 when I built my first AR and it continues to be good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am using XM right now. It is just a bit over Moa for my gun to 400, but that is with a 1-4 Razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 No love for freedom munitions around here? I shouldn't say anything though, don't want everyone to start buying it and making it harder to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Thread revive! Anyone ever chrono the Hornady 55gr Steel Match out of a 16" barrel? I was shooting at 500yds today with a few 55 and 62gr loads and all easily hitting either slightly high or low on a 10" plate with a center hold. Decide to throw some of the Hornady down range and it's in a different zip code. I couldn't even spot my misses, which means they where getting lost somewhere in a brush pile about 30yds short of the target. Must be a good bit slower than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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