steviesterno Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hey all, I'm really used to running 1911s or 2011s in competition, so I'm thinking about finally upgrading to that platform for ccw. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a hopefully light weight CCO style 1911 in a reasonable budget. I have tried to carry the full grip (SA Champion operator) and it ended up poking me a bit too much. I can't imagine holstering my Baer, (with it's dawson magwell and target sights, just makes weight in SS). My thought would be it would pull my pants down and bug me even with good leather, and the adjustable sights catch my skin when I'm wearing it for a match. I'm also in Texas, so the hot weather prevents much in the way of outer clothing. And I'm at a point in my life where 380 just doesn't seem like a good idea. Just looking for thoughts and suggestions? I would love to come in for the whole thing under $1k, but understand if that's not an option. What do you guys all think? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p7fl Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Same logic. South Florida. Carrying a Colt Gunsite CCO for the past 5 years. Light accurate and reliable. The 7 round butt conceals well with lighter clothing. Been trying to get a Glock 19 to conceal as well as the CCO -- no success yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 May or may not be in budget: STI Guardian DW ECO The STI would be closer to your budget but the DW is very nice. The Guardian is all steel. Not sure if you preferred aluminum framed or not. I own the STI but have shot both. Both equal as far as accuracy, but I give the DW a nod for finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I would be interested in checking out a Guardian, and supporting my new home state does sound pretty nice. I would prefer aluminum, but I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker. I have owned a DW and the quality really is second to none. Sold it when I needed some money but it was on par with a Brown I would say. I haven't seen one in the used department recently, if ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 With a good belt an holster, I don't even feel the all steel Guardian. And the difference in price could be a new holster, magwell and extra mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 That's true, never hurts to save some coin. One if the reasons I want the 1911 is because I have holsters and some mags sitting around. Just curious, why put a magwell on a small carry gun? Seems like if you're going smaller, save the trouble, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Helps tremendously with reloads. Doesn't really add any additional length when you account the additional length the base pads already add. Also, from time to time I actually use my Guardian in IDPA matches. So the magwell comes in hand. Let me tell you, 1911s are not as forgiving on reloads as 2011s are. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hi. Bought a Rock Island Armory 3.5" 9mm last summer. Great gun! Put a magwell on it to allow use of 9 or 10 round mags (Wilson 25 bucks) and a set of CT laser grips. Never hiccups, jams, or acts up. Probably have about 1000 rounds through it so far. Accurate and nice looking. I use it all the time in our carry gun matches. Check them out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh I know about forgiving reloads, that's for sure. was a single stack shooter with no magwell for a while. then I slammed my stupid hand one too many times and upgraded. I'm not super concerned about reloading a carry gun though. Just seems like a rare occurrence. Any experience with a bobtail cut instead of a magwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I've never handled a bobtail so I can't comment on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Find a used DW CCO. Lightweight, accurate, reliable. I have carried various CCO type 1911's for around five years, and they are my favorite! I too have never seen the need for a magwell on a carry gun. It just adds length in the worst spot, plus it forces you to use mags with extended basepads, another negative for CC. Here is a pic of a CCO vs. a commander bobtail. Edited March 19, 2014 by Rimcrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJ1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I don't care for the feel of bobtail's but I do like CCO's. I carry a Wilson X-Tac compact quite often and really like it. Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szhttm Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Check out the Springfield Armory EMP. I love mine!!! Good Luck And Be Safe!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Check out the Springfield Armory EMP. I love mine!!! Good Luck And Be Safe!!! I've shot te EMP and agree its a great gun and would recommend it for someone looking for a compact 9mm in a 1911 style gun, but it's not a CCO nor is it a 1911. Otherwise, nice handling gun. Edited March 19, 2014 by v1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max It Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 hi ya, interesting discussion; I want to join in. since my little carry gun went kaboom I am looking for a commander sized .45ACP to fill that hole. at the same time I often use my gold cup for steel matches and if it goes south I am forced to change everything to a 9mm. soo I thought why not a commander for both jobs. now the real questions; 1. is this smart? 2. steel or alloy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Another vote for the DW CCO. Mine is great to carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Another vote for the DW CCO. Mine is great to carry. Sheesh, a guy with the name Dan Wesson Fan voting for a wesson... this is my surprised face i really wish I picked one up before people realized how nice they are. I much preferred them as sub $1k guns, since they are easily on par with some of the best. Is there any way to pick one up at a deal anymore? I had a guy offer me a used CCO for $1600 last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Unless you found a used one, they were never sub $1000. I bought three when they first came out, and I think the best deal I got was $1,250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 i got a used Valor for $900 or so a while ago, but wasn't in the market for a smaller 1911 then. Wish I had that still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Antichrome Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) This is on my wish list for such a gun: http://automaticaccuracy.net/?wpsc-product=dan-wesson-eco Edited March 20, 2014 by The Antichrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Another vote for the DW CCO. Mine is great to carry.Sheesh, a guy with the name Dan Wesson Fan voting for a wesson... this is my surprised face i really wish I picked one up before people realized how nice they are. I much preferred them as sub $1k guns, since they are easily on par with some of the best. Is there any way to pick one up at a deal anymore? I had a guy offer me a used CCO for $1600 last night Got mine for $1250 new one of the first 100 CCO's out. My new $950 PM9 was the best gun for the money I ever bought. Then they raise prices and I havent bought one since. The used deals exist, but you have to pretty much stalk all the forums nonstop, or have RSS feeds/email notifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Unless you found a used one, they were never sub $1000. I bought three when they first came out, and I think the best deal I got was $1,250.yep, the best price was at $1250 when the CCOs were new Edited March 21, 2014 by DWFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Check out the Springfield Armory EMP. I love mine!!! Good Luck And Be Safe!!! I've shot te EMP and agree its a great gun and would recommend it for someone looking for a compact 9mm in a 1911 style gun, but it's not a CCO nor is it a 1911. Otherwise, nice handling gun. An EMP is not a 1911? On what planet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 The EMP is a scaled down version of a 1911 built around the 9mm cartridge. Very few 1911 parts are even compatible with the EMP. Even the simplest things like grips have to be specific for the EMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjohn Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Bought a first series blem for 950...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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