RH45 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 I have tried out the Tubbs 2k for MOR/Sniper matches. It has a couple of major issues for the sniper matches especially. Try shooting it weak shoulder - fast. It does have an awesome trigger and the bolt cycle speed is really cool. I personally think it is way to position sensitive for "real work" or sniper matches. I won't go into the other problems I had or have seen - I tried one for a month and now have an AI AW and will never look back. If you want a rifle that will always work whether it is hot, cold, dirty, ran over by a truck, etc. get an AIAW. I have tested it from 30 degrees to 200 degrees on barrel temp with no impact point shift. And it reloads fast. I will never own a 700 again although if I did, it would have the AICS stock on it. Yeah, the AI stuff is pricey, but, if you want something thats tough and real world proven - they are the only way to go. FYI the ten round AW mags actually hold 12. :-P BTW my scope setup is a US Optics with an H25 HV ret. with mil adjustments. Think about that setup and using it with the ATRAG software and you will figure out some really cool things! Take care, Matt Please excuse my ignorance, but, what is an AI AW, how much are they, and where can they be had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 I think it stands for Accuracy International Artic Warfare, they run between 4 and 5 grand, best place to get them is probably Tac Pro Shooting Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 OUCH! That's expensive! Thanks John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bagnato Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 During the 2004 Shot Show I had the opportunity to meet the people of Tactical Rifles. The use the AI chasis and the prices are reasonable. The offer a hell of an accuracy gaurantee. Check out the web site. I am using the Tactical Para with a break. Based on what I've seen others use aside from a the AI AW that Matt recomended there is nothing better. Except these are around $2700 rather than $5500 for the AW. Tell them I sent you. If your in Scottsdale look me up and you can try it yourself. Rob Tacticalrifles.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 They do a nice job. Saw Rob's gun and it does look great. Would recommend a smaller contour than he got on the barrel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyanzhu Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Question for those who own/use AI AW rifle: What is the action like? - extractor type - ejector type - bolt stop - bolt travel distance (for .308) Can you keep the cheek on the stock while working bolt in prone? - bolt throw angle - number of bolt lugs - safety catch type and location If there is such a thing as online documentation can you point me to it? Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 I think the bolt throw is 60 degrees. It is a 3 lug bolt. Safety is on right side located on the bolt toward the rear. Everything can be done without moving your head off the stock - IE cycling weak or strong shoulder, mag changes, etc... Call me if you want any more info at 602-790-8838. I absolutely love that rifle and wish I had five more in the safe. Yeah, they are heavy but DAMN do they shoot!! Take care, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyanzhu Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Thanks Matt. You pretty much answered majority of my questions, most important to me being "keeping the cheek on the stock". Love your videos, hopefully you decide to produce long range rifle ones. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 We will be! Even have access to a camera that can shoot through the scope while I shoot! Just don't know when we will be able to get to them. :-) Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiCapMag Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Great thread here fellas. Matt, could you please post a picture of the mod you did on your magazine latch on the AI? I have an AICS rifle by HD, and am very interested to see what you did. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Finally got a couple of shots for you. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Smith Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Nice mag catch mod? Why did you go with the standard knobs instead of the EREK knob on the SN3? For anyone interested, there is a SN3 group buy going on on SH: http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb....c;f=19;t=002036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I love the USO scopes - if you can get one just do it! Since I use the Horus H25 reticle in my USO, I don't use the EREK knob. I am not sure if I would like it or not, can't really comment on it since I do not have any experience with it. Take care, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiCapMag Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Thanks for the pics Matt! Are you shooting the SHC at Rifles Only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Not sure yet. Depends on flights etc.. Would absolutely love to. Jacob and Lisa's range is awesome. I sure hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Smith Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 [ link to LARGER image ] Now I just need that other barrel and new optics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Matt mentioned that either sighting method, dial up or Horus has its merit, if you couldn't get Horus, (don't think we can here in NZ) would you choose the Leupold M1 or M3 dial up system? Thanks P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Having used both the M1 and M3 I like the M3 better when you need pinpoint accuracy and the M1 for speed . Its always a compromise and not a very good one at that . At a match last year they had a Medulla shot at 100 yards , the guys with the M1 played hell getting on a 1/2 MOA spot on the target . I was using my 22-250 with 1/8th MOA knobs and shot really well . Unfortunately , if I had needed to make any adjustments quickly I would have been hosed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Smith Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I think you mixed up M1 vs M3 in your post. A good compromise might be 0.1 mil clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Sorry , Zak is right . I got those suckers backwards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbs007 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 WOW!!! All that discussion was overwhelming. Now, I am really in need of your help. Just a few months ago I was able to put a rifle intended for MOR, this is the first time I'm shooting a bolt rifle and have no idea about long range shooting. I wasn't really going all out with this due to my new love of shooting 3-gun (the bug bit me really bad), but here I am again wanting to get into it more. I have spent too much already and just wanted to spend on what is really necessary to get me on the playing field of MOR matches. Below is what I currently have: Remington 700P in .308 26" barrel Badger rings and base (20 MOA cant) Leupold 3.5-10x40mm M1 Duplex reticle Harris S-L bipod Nothing fancy, fairly stock. If anybody can just guide me to the right direction and tell me what I should do with my equipment without spending over $700.00 more. I can auction my scope in e-bay, I only shot this rifle once to zero it at 100 yards. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 If anybody can just guide me to the right direction and tell me what I should do with my equipment without spending over $700.00 more My recommendation would be to buy a decent ballistics program (such as Exbal), spend a the rest on [buying or building] good quality ammo, and go shoot. There's no substitute for time behind the scope, and *knowing* what the bullet is going to do... Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 http://www.perry-systems.com/ is where you get Exbal. If you can get any of the stocks from AI get one and some mags. I have heard there is an adapter plate for the McMillan that will take the AICS mags which might be another option. I think Badger ord was coming out with it. It may also work on the standard stocks. If you can get a scope with mildots or the horus reticle, go for it or wait until you can afford it. Are you reloading yet? That will save you money and most likely get you better ammo than you can buy. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 The Badger Ordnance Bottom metal was unveiled at the Shot show on one of GA Precisions rifles that was built for the guy that runs the Snipershide website . It has yet to be released but is slated for sometime this summer . You can get on a waiting list through GA Precision to get one of the first ones built which if you are interested would be a good idea as McMillan has preorderered several thousand of the units which is going to mean that it will probably be Fall of this year before the rest of us mere mortals will see them . The Badger Ordnance setup is way more stout than the H.S. Precision setup and 10 round mags are 63 dollars versus 120 bucks for the H.S. I am on the list and waiting with baited breath . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 You can get on a waiting list through GA Precision to get one of the first ones built which if you are interested would be a good idea as McMillan has preorderered several thousand of the units which is going to mean that it will probably be Fall of this year before the rest of us mere mortals will see them ...I am on the list and waiting with baited breath . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you know what the cost for the mag adapter will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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