mwc Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Tried some bill drills with the Stock II and it proved to kind of difficult, due to the reset being so long. I was lucky to get any splits under .20 and it felt very ackward. I don't have the same problem with my CZ or glock. Any options out there? Edited November 20, 2013 by mwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Tried some bill drills with the Stock II and it proved to kind of difficult, due to the reset being so long. I was lucky to get any splits under .20 and it felt very ackward. I don't have the same problem with my CZ or glock. Any options out there? If you can, try different disco/trigger bar combos. I have one spare trigger bar and two spare discos; just by systematically trying different combos I was able to find one combo which wouldn't reset at all, and one with as short a reset as my CZC Shadow with their SRTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Very nice! That would make me very happy! I didn't think that there would be such a difference in stock parts. Looks like I got some part swapping to do. Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I was contemplating either drilling the disconnector for an adjustment screw or welding some material on there to tighten the reset up. I mostly shoot SA though so its not very high on my list of things to do .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 It might be easier to get the un fit SRTS from CGW and drill out the hole for your Tanfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Practice more. It's not the reset that is slowing you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Practice more. It's not the reset that is slowing you down. If I wanted to practice more...I would keep shooting my Glock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Before the SRTS disco was available I welded up the trigger bar on my SP 01 where it contacts the hook on the disco, then fit it until it would reset. It worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Practice more. It's not the reset that is slowing you down. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Practice more. It's not the reset that is slowing you down. This! Ok...I get it ...practice will make things better...but why can't a guy have his cake and eat it too! Edited November 21, 2013 by mwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Did you ever think that trying to catch the reset is what's slowing you down in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sure did...been shooting glocks since '91 and been teaching cops to do it for years. I don't try to catch the reset...its just that the reset is shorter than what I am used to and I am just looking for a way to shorten the learning curve. No big deal...I just got bored and wanted to try something different. I know that if I keep it the way it is and put a lot of time in and rounds down range that it won't be a problem, but I see nothing wrong with trying to make the gun fit me within the rules. Its the off season after all.. and I like to tinker and experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 No problem with tinkering. I think we all get that. But why is the length of the reset part of the learning curve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Someone talking about reset on a single action trigger...this is a VERY odd conversation... Every witness ive ever handled has had a reset shorter than ANY glock ive ever ran into... Can you post a video so we can see what you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Someone talking about reset on a single action trigger...this is a VERY odd conversation... Every witness ive ever handled has had a reset shorter than ANY glock ive ever ran into... Can you post a video so we can see what you're talking about? I have found this to be true as well. I know my stock ii has a shorter reset than my shadow. Unless he has the srts installed but then again the reset isnt that far off from it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerDK Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Couldn't you remove material from the lower left sear leg? I have been told this is where the reset happens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 That's part of it, but in a DA/SA pistol, the disco catches the trigger on the return stroke, by shortening the sear leg with the same disco you would get slack in the SA pull, but no shorter stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Just a quick follow up... It would seem that I was barking up the wrong tree on this one! I just got back from the range after replacing the wood grips with EG's grips and noticed that the splits times were back to what I am used to. The reset wasn't a problem at all. My guess is the huge wood grips were messing me up some how. Anyway thank you all for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Couldn't you remove material from the lower left sear leg? I have been told this is where the reset happens.... Technically there are 5 sides of that sear leg. Do you know which side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babo_al Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) The way Tanfoglio is designed the reset of the trigger is controlled by the movement of the trigger bow up /down, and backwards/ forwards . As you pull the trigger you are pushing the trigger bow which pushes the sear and the hammer falls. At this point the gun goes in battery and the slide pushes the trigger bow downwards { note the trigger bow stays in contact with sear only when slide is fully closed } releasing the pressure from the sear, this movement of the slide will bring the sear on the down position to catch the hammer hooks so you are ready for next shoot. Now as we release the trigger, the trigger bow start coming up and forward and in contact with the sear back again .To make this as short as possible one wants to ether remove material from the lower left leg of the sear that engages the trigger bow or from the left side of the trigger bow that engages the same side of the sear. This material removal could affect the timing of the gun because it mean the trigger bow need to move more backwards to engage sear leg {now shortened } and depending how much you remove in double action guns you may end up with a longer trigger pull in single action mode but a short reset. In order to remedy the longer trigger pull in single action mode for double action guns considering that the trigger movement is limited from the movement of the trigger bow which is restricted from the location of the interrupter one need to add some material to the inside part of the interrupter that engages the inside part of the trigger bow , or add some material on the trigger bow itself .Sorry I am just to lazy to take pictures but for someone that knows the terminology of the parts you know what I talking , if not Tanfoglio have exploded pictures of all the models with the part names in there . Is so much trouble in other words that is not worth the time and effort, at least not for me. Hope I helped you hacking your gun …. Please don’t go this route unless you have spare parts to experiment with. Edited December 6, 2013 by babo_al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think CGW has an interruptor/disconnector that is for gunsmith fit that describes what you are referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maks_H Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Buy a new Extreme hammer for Tanfoglio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Buy a new Extreme hammer for Tanfoglio... I have that installed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 use the old style one piece sear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleverUsername Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Is that the equivalent to using the SA sear from a limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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