mwx40x40 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Anybody else waiting on Criterion 18" Hybrid barrels from Brownells? Anybody got any inside scoop and when these barrels will be available again? I have been on backorder for almost six weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 heck, ive been waiting over 6 months for a ranier select barrel to get back in stoc, hence my query about the brownell barrel. What is the accuracy reputation of the criterion barrel if i may ask? May consider a 16" version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rboyes Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I have an upper with a Criterion 18" heavy barrel in 223. I haven't put too many rounds through it but did it shoot my long range load about the same as the 18" Noveske in my 3 gun rifle (Hornady 75gr bthp)...10 shot group in about an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmego Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 My Criterion 18" hybrid is very accurate. I would not hesitate recommending it to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry weeks Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 18" HBar contour is shown in stock - my stock screen shows 32 of them, the 18" hybrid contour isn't expected until mid-January - and that's when we expect them based on past lead times. That doesn't mean they will arrive then, could be sooner, could be later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Guess it will be January, or later. Not interested in HBAR 18" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I would like to see some actual sets of 5 to 10 shot groups from these barrels. Been considering one for a build later. All I have seen is general comments when it relates to accuracy vs actual figures. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If I remember the conversation correctly Benny Hill held the Criterion barrels in very high regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Still would like to see some groups posted. I like the idea of a accurate chrome lined barrel however.Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klemmer Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Pat, I built an upper with the Criterion 18" hybrid after TX multigun this year. Firing my 77gr SMK handloads off a bench it will shoot 5 shot groups at 200 yards (my 3G zero) that could be covered with a nickel. Remember, the Criterion guys used to work at Krieger....they know accurate barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiasushi Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Have you also shot any 55gr loads through your Criterion? If so how did they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klemmer Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 My hoser load is 55 grain Hornady FMJ-BT. I typically shoot paper and under 100 yd targets with the 55s and transition to 77s beyond 100. So, my shooting with 55s isn't very demanding. I do know that the 200 yd zero with 77s runs above POA from muzzle to 100 yards with the 55s and that I can still group under an inch for 5 x 55s at 100 yards. Sorry, nothing more precise or scientific with 55s. This is a 1:8 twist so I suspect it is gentler on lighter bullets than the more common 1:7 twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rma_38sup Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I can vouch for the criterion 308 barrels. Groups at 100 yards went from 3+ inches with the stock DPMS barrel to 1 inch or less at 100 using the same Fed GMM and Black Hills Match Ammo. Robert L2723 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naka16 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I had some weird experiences with brownells back orders. I was waiting on a seekins adj gas block. Was just browsing on the website one day, and noticed it in stock. I figured I would get my back order in the mail soon. After a week, it never came in. Went back to check and it was out of stock again. If you are really set on getting the barrel, check in once a week or more on the website and if it shows in stock, just order it, call them and cancel the back order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Pat, I built an upper with the Criterion 18" hybrid after TX multigun this year. Firing my 77gr SMK handloads off a bench it will shoot 5 shot groups at 200 yards (my 3G zero) that could be covered with a nickel. Remember, the Criterion guys used to work at Krieger....they know accurate barrels. Every group? What is the average. This is how I determine accuracy. With respect people have a tendency to show their best groups only and then say X rifle is a 1/4 moa rifle. In reality getting under 3/4 moa consistently with a semi is hard. If your getting nickle sized groups at 200 yards consistently then a lot of bench rest shooters are going to want that barrel. I just wish I could get someone to do what I did above with their Crieteron barrel so I can no rather to make the leap or not. Also what is the weight on a 18 inch hybrid contour. Pat Edited November 5, 2013 by Alaskapopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klemmer Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I have a family and a life outside of 3 Gun; therefore, I will never make time to write a term paper or photo slideshow of an afternoon at the range. Pat, I like you. We squadded together at TX Multigun in April. Here is my offer to you: PM me your mailing address and I will mail my upper to Alaska. You take 60 days to shoot groups and take pictures. Send it back when you're done and post results to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I have a family and a life outside of 3 Gun; therefore, I will never make time to write a term paper or photo slideshow of an afternoon at the range. Pat, I like you. We squadded together at TX Multigun in April. Here is my offer to you: PM me your mailing address and I will mail my upper to Alaska. You take 60 days to shoot groups and take pictures. Send it back when you're done and post results to the forum. Did not realize who I was talking to. Sorry about that. pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Pat, The weight of the 18" Hybrid barrel is 35.7 ounces, according to the Q&A thread pertaining to it. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mamma Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I have a family and a life outside of 3 Gun; therefore, I will never make time to write a term paper or photo slideshow of an afternoon at the range. Pat, I like you. We squadded together at TX Multigun in April. Here is my offer to you: PM me your mailing address and I will mail my upper to Alaska. You take 60 days to shoot groups and take pictures. Send it back when you're done and post results to the forum. Did not realize who I was talking to. Sorry about that. pat Tagged for results if you take him up on his offer. Please post results in this thread if you do. Joe Mamma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rboyes Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Pat, I went out today and shot 4 5-round groups with my 18" Criterion HBAR today at 100 yards. My load is the 75gr Hornady BTHP over 23.8gr Reloder 15, moving about 2600fps from my 18" Noveske. This load was worked up for the Noveske but still worked pretty well in the Criterion. I figure playing with the load a little could tighten it up a hair. Average group size between the 4 is .968" Edited November 8, 2013 by rboyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Pat, I went out today and shot 4 5-round groups with my 18" Criterion HBAR today at 100 yards. My load is the 75gr Hornady BTHP over 23.8gr Reloder 15, moving about 2600fps from my 18" Noveske. This load was worked up for the Noveske but still worked pretty well in the Criterion. I figure playing with the load a little could tighten it up a hair. Average group size between the 4 is .968" Awesome thanks! That is what I wanted to see. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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