Canman Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Ok I know Iam beating a dead horse but here goes. What causes the primer feed to stick. Making the primer slide jump and toss the primer out or sit on its side. In the past I just take apart and clean with fine steel wool problem solved. Not working this time. Any ideas? Edited September 22, 2013 by Canman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canman Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI7HpdHvlco Check this out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 And all this time I was thinking I need to add an extra return spring to get the primer bar to return. Good job Canman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) Going to Home Depot now and make me one . Thanks! Edited September 21, 2013 by R1valdez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Great idea. Gotta try it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Go by the lock dept. of any hardware store or Wal-Mart and pick up some powdered Graphite. Use it as a lube just a fine dusting will work. My machine is over twenty five years old and this trick has worked great. I also use just a little on the powder bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I'm curious what Dillon's take is on this. I've only had my RL550 about 5 years, and have already had a primer slide, bearing plate, and the primer housing replaced due to wear causing the slide to get loose in the housing, resulting in unreliable travel of the slide which ultimately caused unreliable primer feeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Canman...couple of questions for you. First, how's the replacement track bearing doing? What sort of lube are you using on the bearing? Dry graphite? Grease? Oil? Your primer slide in the video looks heavily polished in the top portion that rides through the primer housing. Did you polish it, or is that just wear from the housing? I'm going to see if a friend can help me make one similar to yours. My existing bearings are: used: 0.055" new: 0.057" According to some googling, 16GA standard steel is 0.0598" thick. Because the track bearing sits between the press and the primer housing / primer slide, if you go just a bit thicker, it's not a problem...the slide and housing just sit a tiny bit higher...and since the cup on the primer slide is what limits the downward travel of the ram, if you can't find an exact thickness match for the original track bearing it's better/safer to go slightly thicker than thinner? Is yours standard steel? You'd think a measurement like gauge would be a constant, but apparently it means different thicknesses for different metals. Galvanized and stainless steels are thicker, and for these, 17GA would be closer to correct. The bearing I just swapped out looked exactly like yours (down to the shiny wear marks on the front), and appears to be just slightly warped, which I'm told happens over time. Did you do anything in particular to ensure flatness of your replacement bearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anm2_man Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 All I got to say is WOW. I no longer have my 550, but I did wear out 2 of those plates over the years (and of course dillon replaced them), But it ended up causing me a bunch of mis-fed primers over the years. I always looked at that plate and said this is worn but Dillon would always give me a new set of parts, and then my machine ran good. I hope you patented this idea. Not to screw Dillon, but they should of thought about if first. But there may be other issues like the hardness of the metal and the cost to make it hard enough. This could negate this idea. In lieu of a patent, How about a Dillon Engineering Award for innovation ! It comes with a complete Dillon press of your choice for a great idea. Now I will be the first to say - If it doesn't work for 5,000 rounds (and Dillon would need to test this), its not a good idea, but if it does, he deserves it. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canman Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Sorry Guys I didn't mean to mislead y'all. I found that video on YouTube and thought it should be shared here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 My primer bar was getting a little sticky so I broke it down. This is what I discovered. I slid the bar back and forth in the housing and even after cleaning it was grabbing . On the inside of the housing I ran a file along the length that the bar rides on and found high spots right where the Allen head screws attach it to the base. Evidently when tightening these screws it squishes the aluminum a little. I never thought I cranked that hard so maybe the metal is real soft. I filed just enough on both sides to take the high spots down and its sliding like perfect. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I got mine cut out (by FLG) and installed today. It works as well as the factory part in the short run of about 50 rounds. I will have to load 300 or so to develop some statistics, it had not been going that long without sticking before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGT80 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I had the same problem with the primer housing developing high spots next to the screws. I had dillon send a new primer housing in the past, and I made sure not to tighten the screws more than needed. My primer bars had a black coating and most of it wore off. I bought the press used. I finally sent the press in to be rebuilt. It works great now. They changed the entire priming system and bars. They also replaced the old powder thrower that I sent in. I am happy that the press works well, but I am wondering how long the new priming system will last. Maybe the housing should be steel so that it doesn't deform where the screws thread in. I didn't watch the video yet, but the extended bearing might help. I shouldn't have waited so long to contact dillon about the priming problem, but it just got slowly worse until it didn't work at all. My press had some slop in the linkage and I had already replaced a couple parts myself, so it was time for Dillon to work their magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 A friend who's handy and retired made me one of these. I think I'm close to 1000 rounds loaded since putting it in place, and have not had any priming issues yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinz Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 That is so awesome. I hope someone markets this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWThomas Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I keep mine clean and haven't had an issue in over 20K rounds loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I keep mine clean and haven't had an issue in over 20K rounds loaded. Do you decap on another press? The way the 550 works, keeping the primer slide bearing clean is pretty much impossible unless you stop to clean it every time you refill the primer magazine...and even then, it wouldn't have been totally clean between cleanings. It's the one thing that has me wondering from time to time if I should have gone 650 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I made a new bearing plate as shown in the above video last night. Even with the new plate, my primer slide still fails to come all the way back to pickup a new primer. I have to bump the side of the slide at the top of the press stroke to get the primer slide to come back and pickup a primer. It appears that the primer housing has to much slop, and the slide is binding to the left. I've emailed Dillon asking for a new housing and slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxWoodsHunterxX Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I made a new bearing plate as shown in the above video last night. Even with the new plate, my primer slide still fails to come all the way back to pickup a new primer. I have to bump the side of the slide at the top of the press stroke to get the primer slide to come back and pickup a primer. It appears that the primer housing has to much slop, and the slide is binding to the left. I've emailed Dillon asking for a new housing and slide. This is exactly what I think is wrong with mine. Guy today said it can't be and told me it was just the rod and was going to send me a new one. But the slop in the housing is worse from what it originally was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiefire Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm not familiar with the 650 - how does it get around this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Update: Dillon sent a new primer housing with shield, large and small primer slides. Press is working perfectly with the updated bearing plate now! Thanks Dillon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I made a new bearing plate as shown in the above video last night. Even with the new plate, my primer slide still fails to come all the way back to pickup a new primer. I have to bump the side of the slide at the top of the press stroke to get the primer slide to come back and pickup a primer. It appears that the primer housing has to much slop, and the slide is binding to the left. I've emailed Dillon asking for a new housing and slide. This is exactly what I think is wrong with mine. Guy today said it can't be and told me it was just the rod and was going to send me a new one. But the slop in the housing is worse from what it originally was. They sent me instructions on how to fix a Square deal B and said the housing couldn't be the problem. I replied to their email and told them I have a 550B not a Square deal B and the primer housing is worn and sloppy. New parts arrived a week later.(primer housing and shield tube, large and small primer slides) Keep after them and they will send you the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxWoodsHunterxX Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I made a new bearing plate as shown in the above video last night. Even with the new plate, my primer slide still fails to come all the way back to pickup a new primer. I have to bump the side of the slide at the top of the press stroke to get the primer slide to come back and pickup a primer. It appears that the primer housing has to much slop, and the slide is binding to the left. I've emailed Dillon asking for a new housing and slide. This is exactly what I think is wrong with mine. Guy today said it can't be and told me it was just the rod and was going to send me a new one. But the slop in the housing is worse from what it originally was. They sent me instructions on how to fix a Square deal B and said the housing couldn't be the problem. I replied to their email and told them I have a 550B not a Square deal B and the primer housing is worn and sloppy. New parts arrived a week later.(primer housing and shield tube, large and small primer slides)Keep after them and they will send you the parts. How old is your press? They sent me a rod Said mine was possibly bent. I guess I'll have to call back and see if they'll send me a new unit. I noticed there is some slop in mine and plate is a little worn out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) I kind of wonder if the problem with presses where the primer cup is binding against the housing isn't the housing but that the cup on the primer slide has come loose and is slightly canted. It can be a real PITA to properly reseat...but the easiest way seems to be to loosen the set screw, put it together, turn the shell plate half way between stations, and use the press to compress the primer cup onto the slide. Then tighten the set screw. Edited March 7, 2014 by njl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxWoodsHunterxX Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I made a new bearing plate as shown in the above video last night. Even with the new plate, my primer slide still fails to come all the way back to pickup a new primer. I have to bump the side of the slide at the top of the press stroke to get the primer slide to come back and pickup a primer. It appears that the primer housing has to much slop, and the slide is binding to the left. I've emailed Dillon asking for a new housing and slide. This is exactly what I think is wrong with mine. Guy today said it can't be and told me it was just the rod and was going to send me a new one. But the slop in the housing is worse from what it originally was. They sent me instructions on how to fix a Square deal B and said the housing couldn't be the problem. I replied to their email and told them I have a 550B not a Square deal B and the primer housing is worn and sloppy. New parts arrived a week later.(primer housing and shield tube, large and small primer slides)Keep after them and they will send you the parts. How old is your press? They sent me a rod Said mine was possibly bent. I guess I'll have to call back and see if they'll send me a new unit. I noticed there is some slop in mine and plate is a little worn out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Rod wasn't it. Guess it either has to be housing or bearing plate causing issue. Tried different primer slide but same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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