Racegun38s Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 anyone have any experience with aluminum skokbufs? I'm using an aluminum sb in my new stroker and I wonder what differences I will feel if I swittch it out for a softer material without losing reliability. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racegun38s Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 I meant shokbuf. duh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Try asking Dawson about your gun. I've shot a stroker with an alumibuff and I think it has the feel of a deadblow hammer. I liked it alot. The polymer/plastic shok buffs flex more, they kind of make the gun feel muffled, imprecise. Your mileage may vary, hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 never seen aluminum buffs. Where do you get them. Sounds like it could be interesting to test out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racegun38s Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 Dawson Precision has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 So I am gathering they have a very different feel than the rubber ones. I am going to have to try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLucky Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I have alumibuffs in my Dawson Stroker and I love it. I have shot it both ways and it feels a lot better with the aluminum in. I have never shot a rubber buffer. I am also adding an alumibuf to my Benny Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Do the metal buffs deform? Do people use them to shorten the slide stroke, or to decrease battering of the gun (or the shooter)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 The ones I have seen have had a few thousand rounds with no noticeable deformation. I believe it diffuses the energy from the slide in a different way. The only way I can think of describing it is imagine you take a hammer and you strike another piece of metal, the hammer usually bounces. A dead blow hammer reduces or eliminates that bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I would be very afraid of a piece of Al breaking off and jamming stuff up during a match. Don't think this can happen with rubber unless you don't change it - same argument prob for Al buff's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Being a shok buff user, I'm finding this really interesting. Can you use just any type of aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadrew Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I use the heitt red 0.90 buffs... a lot softer than without, no slam at the rear of the slide stroke. I would be interested to try one of the aluminum bufs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 prompted me to order some. I have been using Wilson buffs. But if this really does feel alot different I will update as I experiment. I am going to work for myself the first of October so I will have more time to experiment with the equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newguy Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I decided to try the alumabuffs after reading this post. For $4.50 what did I have to lose? Shoot 100 rounds with a light STI Recoilmaster then 100 rounds with the alumabuffs. The gun actually felt softer and the dot tracked better with the alumabuffs. Maybe it was just my imagination or maybe it was due to the shorter slide stroke (the buffs are pretty thick). Although it was only 100 rounds, there was no sign of deforming or wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 A friend of mine has one and it has a few thousand rounds with no appreciable wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision40 Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I talked with one of Dawsons guys at the Nationals and he told me the aluminum buffs were designed for their Stroker guns, but they seemed to work as well in regular 5" guns. From what I understood him to say, they seem to think that the aluminum buff doesn't really soften the felt recoil, it just provides a softer metal to metal contact when the slide comes all the way back. Sounds like a good idea, the only problem I see is short-stroking the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Chonlatid Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I could not see any info about alumibuffs in Dawson homepage. Anyone can suggest the link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 You may have to call or e-mail for a while-- they barely went into production before Nationals and there's some catching up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 (edited) [bump to top] Has anyone else tried these? Page 12 of the Dawson catalog, upper left corner: http://www.dawsonprecision.com/images/DPCatalog44.pdf I perceive a bounce in the recoil of different guns more than most people, which is why I don't like the Sprinco. The "dead-blow hammer" effect might be nice, wondering if more people have tried these on an Open gun. Similar thread here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...=19395&hl=aluma Edited March 12, 2006 by eric nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Just a word of caution for what it is worth. I started using aluminum buffs and really liked the feel that they gave the gun. Also seemed like faster recovery. They did have a sharper but straight back recoil inpulse. Then my gun started doubling and after a lot of work it turned out to be worn trigger sear engagement. A new trigger and sear cured the problem, but I have a strong suspicion that the bounce had something to do with it. the hammer and sear wore out less than 2000 rounds after the aluminum buffs went in. I have went back to the softer ones. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I've been using them since before they came out , with zero problems. Most of the time I put a Hiett .090 buff behind it, because I can, but often I don't and haven't seen any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 When I was shooting an open gun (5" Supercomp), I noticed absolutely no difference between Dawson's aluminum shokbuffs and traditional polymer ones. I ended up leaving the aluminum one in and shot it for all or most of 2005, had thousands of rounds on that buff with very little wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenTX Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) They come in two different thicknesses, the thick ones may be for a Dawson Stroker. I suggest checking for coil bind on any spring & buff setup. Have them in my Open gun and one of my limited guns. I can shoot the two limited guns back to back and they definitely feel different. After several thousand rounds in my Open gun at 174+ PF with a 9# spring. You can see marks and wear on the aluminum, but no expansion like you get on an well used plastic buff. Edited May 11, 2006 by CenTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks everyone. I measured the buffs I use now, Ed Brown and EGW, they're both about .105" thick. I only use one because starting with 2 I can't lock the slide back. I'll try the .100 dawson aluma buffs & see how I like them. The .150 sounds too thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Watne Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Anybody try the aluma buffs in a single stack 45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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