gose Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Since this was kinda hidden in another thread, I'll start a new one The Molots have been used in IPSC over in Europe for quite a while now with great success, but up until lately they werent being imported into the US. However, it looks like that is going to change now, since both Centerfire and Mississippi auto arms are taking pre-orders with estimated delivery end of Oct/early Nov. At $999 it comes with a pistol grip, picatinny rail and mag well, so you should be able to get a competitive Open gun for much less than the current $3000 Saiga conversions, slap on a comp, a sight, maybe a new stock and trigger and you're pretty much good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Interesting-they only come with a 5-rd magazine. Are larger ones going to be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Interesting-they only come with a 5-rd magazine. Are larger ones going to be available? Larger ones are available already. AFAIK, Saiga mags fit, but might need minor modifications. There are also Molot factory 8 rounders that dont fit Saigas, as well as +2 and +7 extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 So the +7 would go on the factory 8 round mag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 So the +7 would go on the factory 8 round mag? For 15, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I'm no laywer,but, don't a bunch of parts need to be changed, to be 922 compliant, before being able to legally use a hi-cap mag? I see, in another thread, that some of the europen shooters that already have Molots, are going to Akdals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctay Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 VEPR-12 Molot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I'm no laywer,but, don't a bunch of parts need to be changed, to be 922 compliant, before being able to legally use a hi-cap mag? I see, in another thread, that some of the europen shooters that already have Molots, are going to Akdals. Correct - if you want to run >5 round mags you have to change out all the usual compliance parts. Given the inherent issues with the Saiga platform, I'd still go the Akdal route myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Do these have interchangable chokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) I'm no laywer,but, don't a bunch of parts need to be changed, to be 922 compliant, before being able to legally use a hi-cap mag? I see, in another thread, that some of the europen shooters that already have Molots, are going to Akdals. Correct - if you want to run >5 round mags you have to change out all the usual compliance parts. Given the inherent issues with the Saiga platform, I'd still go the Akdal route myself. Yea inherent issues like having higher cap mags and lower recoil. These new guns are also not Saigas thier Molots. Different company entirely. Pat Edited October 27, 2012 by Alaskapopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulwembu Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Hopefully Molot solved the problem that they have with lighter loads then. I've heard a lot of talk about altering springs to be able to shoot lighter loads in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topmaul Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If I was not about to retire from service I'd be buying on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) I'm no laywer,but, don't a bunch of parts need to be changed, to be 922 compliant, before being able to legally use a hi-cap mag? I see, in another thread, that some of the europen shooters that already have Molots, are going to Akdals. Correct - if you want to run >5 round mags you have to change out all the usual compliance parts. Given the inherent issues with the Saiga platform, I'd still go the Akdal route myself. Yea inherent issues like having higher cap mags and lower recoil. These new guns are also not Saigas thier Molots. Different company entirely. Pat I'm not anti-Saiga at all - until recently I owned one myself. I got rid of it because, although it was totally reliable and a blast to shoot, I could not get over the nagging feeling that if anything broke I would be SOL... spare parts are made from unobtainium. That every Saiga 12 seemed to be made slightly different, and it was a roll of the dice if the gun ran or not, did not give me a warm and fuzzy. If Molot are importing a comprehensive selection of spare parts, then I stand corrected. The 922r issue is, of course, a wash. The Saiga 12, Molot and Akdal all require compliance parts to make the 3-Gun ready. Edited October 28, 2012 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesY Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Perfect timing. I'm about to get rid of my POS Saiga jam-o-matic. With the elections, this shotgun might be hard to get in CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 StealthyBlagga, So What are you running for a shotgun now????..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm no laywer,but, don't a bunch of parts need to be changed, to be 922 compliant, before being able to legally use a hi-cap mag? I see, in another thread, that some of the europen shooters that already have Molots, are going to Akdals. Correct - if you want to run >5 round mags you have to change out all the usual compliance parts. Given the inherent issues with the Saiga platform, I'd still go the Akdal route myself. Yea inherent issues like having higher cap mags and lower recoil. These new guns are also not Saigas thier Molots. Different company entirely. Pat I'm not anti-Saiga at all - until recently I owned one myself. I got rid of it because, although it was totally reliable and a blast to shoot, I could not get over the nagging feeling that if anything broke I would be SOL... spare parts are made from unobtainium. That every Saiga 12 seemed to be made slightly different, and it was a roll of the dice if the gun ran or not, did not give me a warm and fuzzy. If Molot are importing a comprehensive selection of spare parts, then I stand corrected. The 922r issue is, of course, a wash. The Saiga 12, Molot and Akdal all require compliance parts to make the 3-Gun ready. The spare parts issue is getting better as R&R is making bolt carriers now and other parts on the saiga are common with standard AK's. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdhunterman Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 StealthyBlagga, So What are you running for a shotgun now????..... I believe he runs a Versa Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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