agalindo Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 OK I just ordered a 650 and now I'm sitting here waiting and thinking. I've seen those DIY auto primer tuble filler made from a small vibratory motor and a lee hand primer tray. My question is. Instead of using it to load primer tubes why not use it to directly fill the primer tube on the press? That would remove an extra step in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6Hawk Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 One would have to develop a small "nipple" to fill the gap between the primer tray and the primer tube on the press. Doable? Yes. But... I use the old Frankford Arsenal vibra-prime (no longer available, IIRC), and at times have to shake and move the primer tray to get the primers to drop. THAT would be hard to do while keeping that nipple fixed on the press. I just fill up two primer tubes (One Dillon, the other the FA that came with it), and they sit beside my press. With 100 in the press, that's 300 primers just rarin' to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It seems to me that mounting the Dillon primer feeder on the press would work well. On Youtube there are some videos showing a set up like that, although the primer feed appears to be a flexible tube and not the Dillon set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sardo67 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 i have seen pics and YouTube videos of the professional machines that have that built in. looks like you can dump 2,000+ primers in and let it go. haha, i wish i could get one of those. i hate filling the primer tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Well I got my 650 in Friday but had to wait til Sunday to try it out. Filling the primer tube was a bit of a challenge. It seemed like the primers would get stuck and I couldn't force them into the tube even with quite some bit of pressure. Other than filler the primer tube everything went perfect. Now I know for sure I need a case feeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Be carefull.You shouldn't be using pressure to force primers into a tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauza45 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Well I got my 650 in Friday but had to wait til Sunday to try it out. Filling the primer tube was a bit of a challenge. It seemed like the primers would get stuck and I couldn't force them into the tube even with quite some bit of pressure. Other than filler the primer tube everything went perfect. Now I know for sure I need a case feeder. Please dont force primers in the tube. They can go ff and the alum. WILL NOT contain the blast. The primers should go in and come out easy. If 1 sticks in a tube toss the tube in the trash. Be careful. Also make sure you are using the right tube. There is a small and large tube. Edited October 15, 2012 by sauza45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Brand new setup using small WW primers with the small primer tube. They seem to get caught at the tip where the yellow plastic feeder meets the aluminum tube. Don't want to toss a band new tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester121 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Give Dillon a call if you're pressing that hard. They'll make it right (which is why you paid for a top of the line press right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSkip Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I agree, something is wrong. It takes little more than the weight of the tube to slide down over the primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well I reloaded 300 rounds this afternoon and the tube worked with out any issues. I guess it was just tight and needed to be broken in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reloader901 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) .... I use the old Frankford Arsenal vibra-prime (no longer available..... Hmmmmm.... must be e.s.p. A few minutes ago I posted about the Vibra prime in the non-Dillon forum. I called Battenfeld (parent company) yesterday 10/15/12. They said they are bringing it back some time in 2013 for about $70 MSRP. Edited October 16, 2012 by reloader901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 the tube worked with out any issues. I guess it was just tight and needed to be broken in. Now we are breaking in primer tubes? What is this world coming to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Unless you have a better explanation as to why I was having to use significant force on the primer tube to get them to go in. I mean force to the point of tapping the top of the tube with my palm. Yesterday they seemed to go in just fine with very minimal force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reloader901 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Unless you have a better explanation as to why I was having to use significant force on the primer tube to get them to go in. I mean force to the point of tapping the top of the tube with my palm. Yesterday they seemed to go in just fine with very minimal force. Perhaps you exceeded the specifications in your reloading manual for the appropriate number of beers to be consumed during reloading :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 No beer for me when reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Unless you have a better explanation as to why I was having to use significant force on the primer tube to get them to go in. I mean force to the point of tapping the top of the tube with my palm. Yesterday they seemed to go in just fine with very minimal force. That's just weird. And like others have said don't force primers to do anything they don't want to. Are you sure you have the right tip on the tube? Mine worked fine the first time I used them and they still work fine 3 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yellow tip for small primers right? I removed the yellow tip and reseated it a few times that along with the first 100 primers 50 per session seemed to really help with the problem. Maybe I was trying to go at a slight angle instead of straight up and down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natgas Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I've got 2 yellow tips that just seem to be a little harder or more brittle than the others. These 2 make it difficult to pick up primers so I just stopped using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yellow tip for small primers right? I removed the yellow tip and reseated it a few times that along with the first 100 primers 50 per session seemed to really help with the problem. Maybe I was trying to go at a slight angle instead of straight up and down? You can do one of two things. Spread them out a little bit. You can probably use some hot water to heat them up? Or you can just call Dillon and tell them you have two that are just too tight. I'm sure they will send you a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnder Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Is the tip all the way on? If you leave a gap in seating the tip the primer can tilt after pickup and catch on the lip of the metal tube, creating a jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalindo Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Is the tip all the way on? If you leave a gap in seating the tip the primer can tilt after pickup and catch on the lip of the metal tube, creating a jam. I'll check this afternoon. That might have been the problem seems that it started to work after removing and reinserting the yellow tip twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I use a case mouth chamfer tool to make sure my tubes don't have any burr or sharp edges on the inside diameter (ID) of the tube. All you want is a tiny edge break, not a chamfer or funnel. Also, I use the same tool to chamfer the plastic part, making a bigger target for the primer. I find I can pick up primers faster and easier with the funnel mouth on the plastic part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 the tube worked with out any issues. I guess it was just tight and needed to be broken in. Now we are breaking in primer tubes? What is this world coming to? Sarge, Load tube with 1 primer, seat primer clean tube with long pipe cleaner dipped in plastic safe parts cleaner allow to dry, do this 5 times.. Load tube with 5 primers,seat primers clean tube with long pipe cleaner do this 3 times... Clean tube with JB Paste then load as normal.. or if your tubes are chrome lined or have some other treatment load and seat,thay are unbreakableinable.. :roflol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 the tube worked with out any issues. I guess it was just tight and needed to be broken in. Now we are breaking in primer tubes? What is this world coming to? Sarge, Load tube with 1 primer, seat primer clean tube with long pipe cleaner dipped in plastic safe parts cleaner allow to dry, do this 5 times.. Load tube with 5 primers,seat primers clean tube with long pipe cleaner do this 3 times... Clean tube with JB Paste then load as normal.. or if your tubes are chrome lined or have some other treatment load and seat,thay are unbreakableinable.. :roflol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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