ohsevenflhx Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I have been shooting 40 s&w major 170pf using a 14lb recoil spring, and no buffer. It is running flawlessly now. I used to get jams, fail to feed, when I was using the buffer. The brass also would eject in front on me using the buffer. Now the brass ejects rearward like most pistols I have shot. Am I causing damage to my TS by not using the buffer. Do I want to look into one of the recoil management type setups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I would rather have the bird flu than use a shock buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 You are fine the way it is now. never put a shock buff in there, and you are cusing no damage. No other recoil system needed other than shooting it more and working out your grip and upper body strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Thanks burningsquirrels. Does anyone know if USPSA is going to allow thumbrests, or gaspedals in Limited in 2013? Do they help? Edited September 1, 2012 by ohsevenflhx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) My TS had a nosedive round in each stage of my first match with it; I've been going crazy trying to figure it out: polished the feed ramp, polished the breech face, still nose divin'. I've been getting pretty pissed that my $400 clones eat up anything I feed them yet my $1,200 TS is jamming!!! I never thought of the buffer; I guess it's time to shit can that little piece of plastic. Thanks burningsquirrels. Does anyone know if USPSA is going to allow thumbrests, or gaspedals in Limited in 2013? Do they help? Edited September 4, 2012 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 I was in a match Sunday, and the CZ TS ran great without the buffer. I was having weird issues before I removed it. No more buffer for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I was in a match Sunday, and the CZ TS ran great without the buffer. I was having weird issues before I removed it. No more buffer for me! That's great to hear, I'll be shooting a steel match on Thursday, so we'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 The reliability of my TS improved markedly when I tossed the buffer in the trash and improved again with the addition of a steel guide rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 The buffers included with the TS are just useless. I don't know what they must be doing at the factory to justify the cost of putting them in with the gun. Maybe they work with the S&B they use for function testing? For those guys who buy brand new, is one already installed on the gun out of box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenR Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 It has been a couple of years, but I'm pretty sure there was not a buffer installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Yes, buffer and plastic guide rod was in my TS. Now I have no buffer, and a stainless steel recoil guide rod. Edited September 5, 2012 by ohsevenflhx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Middle Man and ohsevenflhx what differences have you noticed with the stainless guide rod over the stumpy plastic one? burningsquirrels I bought my TS new and it did not come with the buffer installed, but a note which said to use it on the .40. Have any of you tried a Sprinco guide rod? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 i ran the factory guide rod no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Middle Man and ohsevenflhx what differences have you noticed with the stainless guide rod over the stumpy plastic one? burningsquirrels I bought my TS new and it did not come with the buffer installed, but a note which said to use it on the .40. Have any of you tried a Sprinco guide rod? What do you think? I purchased my TS used from a private seller on the USPSA site. It was advertised as under 1000 rounds. The buffer, and the nail head part of the factory plastic guide rod looked pretty beat up. So I just purchased a steel guide rod to avoid future costs. I don't know if you will "feel" any difference between a plastic or steel rod. I now have several thousand rounds using the steel guide rod, which is showing no wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I run the steel guide rod but honestly it is largely because I just hated the way the plastic one looked after any use. Still perfectly functional mind you, but just looked horrible. You certainly don't need the steel GR to add weight out on the front of a TS! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbird1976 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Ditch the buffer. Once I got rid of mine, the feeding problems went away. I spoke with two different smiths at CZ Custom. Both recommended removing the buffer. I would buy the steel guide rod, though, as the slide beat the factory plastic rod up pretty good on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Middle Man and ohsevenflhx what differences have you noticed with the stainless guide rod over the stumpy plastic one? burningsquirrels I bought my TS new and it did not come with the buffer installed, but a note which said to use it on the .40. Have any of you tried a Sprinco guide rod? What do you think? After running the factory buffer for a few months and seeing how chewed up the thing got, I decided to ditch it as a matter of principle. I could envision too many problems with bits of plastic floating around inside the pistol. I experienced random failures (one here and there, nothing consistent) to feed with the original factory plastic guide rod. After running through my magazines to find a potential source for the problem and polishing the barrel ramp, I changed the guide rod out and the random failures to feed disappeared. The plain-jane steel guide rod and springs from CZ Custom is the simplest solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Oooh, looks like I made a good choice when I just thought it was for aesthetics! Edited September 9, 2012 by Neomet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Oooh, looks like I made a good choice when I just thought it was for aesthetics! I've shot about 500 rounds through my brand new TS and have finally dumped the buffer; I figured CZ must know better than I do, so I've tried everything else I could think of (polishing the feed ramp and breech face, new mags, Slide Guide), but at my second match last night after three FTFs in my first stage I had had enough, so out came the buff, most likely never to return! PS: what recoil spring weight are you guys running in your .40 TS? my friend was watching me shoot and said my brass was hitting the wall 20' away from me! This would be a sign I could benefit from a heavier spring weight right? It seems like a heavier spring would help ensure the round goes all the way into the chamber, but the risk of over springing is muzzle dip right? Do you find your gun shoots smoother with heavier springs or lighter ones? Thanks for helping the new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I put a Springco in mine before I fired the 1st shot. I've never had and issue and can not say enough good things about Springco. I now have them in all my competition guns. Allen Druger (Springco owner I think), is usually available by phone and will help you with special spring rates if you wish. Amazing product! I just wish they were cheaper. It does lessen the felt recoil as well and in my opinion improves performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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