OPENB Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I opened my weekly email from Graf & Sons, and at the bottom, saw an ad for a Sightron SIII 1-7x24 30mm 3 gun scope. It has an illuminated 4a reticle with red/green illum. $799, out of stock. 1-7? Can't have much of a FOV. Have we gone too far? Didn't have much on details like FFP/SFP, FOV, etc. Just thought someone would be interested. Sightron makes a decent scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep... Shame about the recticle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hmm, be careful. A little study of optics will tell you they are either fudging numbers, or have done something the big boys have not yet figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Juice? Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hmm, be careful. A little study of optics will tell you they are either fudging numbers, or have done something the big boys have not yet figured out. Do tell, what are they fudging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 probably the true power on either end, like not a true 1x on the bottom and not quite 7x on the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Bushnell broke the 6 times magnification boundary a while back with a 2.5-16x scope and Leupold now has a 3-18x so a 1-7x is not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 IOR has a 1-10x - I'm sure others do too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg308 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I spent time looking at it at shot and the glass is phenomenal. On all powers. Fov is 108. Dang good if you ask me. They are still working on it, but it will be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1760yds Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Sightron had prototypes for this scope last year(early 2011). I spent over 2 hours comparing the prototypes to Swarovski 1-6. The glass in the Sightron is right there with the Swarovski. The Swarovski has a bit better field of view but the illumination in the Swaro is in another league altogether. I also played with the production version this year at the SHOT Show and have one on order. The glass is as good as last year. The illumination is a little better but still not anywhere near as good as the Swaro. If this scope had a better reticle it would be the scope to have for 3 gun. Excellent eye relief, glass that is near as good as the Swarovski, true 1x and also the 7x on the top end. The FOV is 91.9 on 1x but feels bigger because the scope disappears with both eyes open. It has 100 MOA adjustments and weighs 20 oz. Eye releif is 3.9 to 4.8. To answer the question above it really does have true 1x. To be exact I think it is like .98 power and the top end is really 7. There is talk of a 2-14 and a 3-21 eventually. My Swaro 1-6 is also like .97 or something like that. Oh, and the turrets are low profile but reset-able to zero by pulling up and pushing back down. It also has Sightron exact tract system so the scope should track as well as their SIII target scopes. Edited January 28, 2012 by 1760yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg308 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Also look for them to get a better reticle and day light illumination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hmm.. If its as good as my SIII 8-32, sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangedays Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Lets face it for the money sightron has made some great scopes, I am sure this will be a great optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangedays Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Here is some more info on the scope, I heard it is true 1x but the reticle sucks big time. http://sightron.com/index.php?action=view_document&did=1201816362&cat_id=6&id=193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrt4me Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Here is some more info on the scope, I heard it is true 1x but the reticle sucks big time. http://sightron.com/index.php?action=view_document&did=1201816362&cat_id=6&id=193 how long before Sightron listens to its customers and offers an improved reticle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncopenshooter Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Probably about the same time folks start buying them instead of complaining about them. No point investing in a platform that no one wants to buy. That said, I have a Sightron 2-7x that a buddy loaned me and it with a daylight illuminated dot would be PERFECT for 3-Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bore Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 at least the reticle doesnt have one of those horse shoes. I hate those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Looks perfect for $900. FOV is king in my book. Especially once u go over 4x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) All of that sounds good, but until someone gets on a rifle with an actual production version and checks out the actual parallax, I will remain skeptical. More magnification results in more parallax everything else being equal. There are some really nice looking scopes out there, but unless your check weld is perfect, the parallax can be an issue. I've seen a few guys tank big time on longer range stages to later find out parallax got them. There is a reason the 6x, and 8x scopes cost so much, and it ain't all glass quality! Edited February 14, 2012 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 All of that sounds good, but until someone gets on a rifle with an actual production version and checks out the actual parallax, I will remain skeptical. More magnification results in more parallax everything else being equal. There are some really nice looking scopes out there, but unless your check weld is perfect, the parallax can be an issue. I've seen a few guys tank big time on longer range stages to later find out parallax got them. There is a reason the 6x, and 8x scopes cost so much, and it ain't all glass quality! I think I suffer from this on occasion. I never miss until I get to a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlicensedDremel Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Oooh, this is very interesting news, indeed... thanks. Sightron is japanese glass, very good. Especially the S3s. Not Chinese or Philipino. May I mention once again that in my view, it just doesn't matter whether it goes down to a true 1x. Unless you have lost an eye, just slap a flip-up Butler Creek cover on the front, use it with cover closed as an OEG (for close in) - voila, instant true 1x, longer eye relief, and in essense perfect unlimited FOV. Nothing faster than an OEG, IMO. Yes, it could be exaggerated a smidge - lots of companies do that. It could be more like a 6x-ish erector; say 1.1-6.6, 1.15-6.9, something like that - not enough to notice any difference. But maybe not; could be a true 1-7. But yeah, I too would like to have a larger outer circle or similar, as well as a larger objective - 32mm would be ideal.. would give you just almost 5mm exit pupil @ 7x. I'm also not understanding how it's illuminated with no rheostat control (??). Edited February 25, 2012 by UnlicensedDremel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlicensedDremel Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) This scope is for sale here at $759: Well I can't put up links yet, so read between the lines.... longrangesupply dot com forward-slash index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=110_99_116&products_id=14772&zenid=2428e040c1705fc36c65de22081bbe93 Well they're taking pre-orders, not orders... Edited February 25, 2012 by UnlicensedDremel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncopenshooter Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It'll be on the street this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddler Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I know this is an old thread. Can anyone share their experience with this optic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I've been plenty happy with mine. The dot reticle is not ideal, but hasn't been a problem either. I've used it out to 400 yards and love it. The illumination isn't great, but I don't use it anyway. 1x up close is really 1x and works great. Looking at the numbers the field of view isn't the best, but haven't noticed any desire for more. One thing is that it is a pretty long scope and requires a lot of eye relief. The Larue SPR-E works perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homa Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I've been plenty happy with mine. The dot reticle is not ideal, but hasn't been a problem either. I've used it out to 400 yards and love it. The illumination isn't great, but I don't use it anyway. 1x up close is really 1x and works great. Looking at the numbers the field of view isn't the best, but haven't noticed any desire for more. One thing is that it is a pretty long scope and requires a lot of eye relief. The Larue SPR-E works perfectly. I'm interested in that scope. Based on picture from sightron, there is a dot in the biddle of the reticle. Is it illuminated dot that goes away and this is normal german reticle after - just cross, or dot stays in the middle, covering target ? And did you compare IR4A vs IRMOS reticles ? -- Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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