mactiger Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Has anyone who's entered the USPSA 3 Gun Nationals received confirmation of their entry yet? How about if you volunteered to work it? Any word? Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dminor Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Troy, I know of one local here in our area who never received anything. Now he is not willing to go. Arnie and I spoke with him on Sunday. The good news is he will be ROing at Area 4 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Nothing here not even lodging information. I don't have a good feeling about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccur Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Still waiting..... Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENE S Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I have put in to RO the match and have not heard a thing as of this date. Gene S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I talked with the MD and know that I'm on the list of RO's. However, I think the big hang up right now are the dissidents, complaining about rules regarding multiple guns, positions of guns, multiple target engagements (i.e. hitting steel with the rifle and then re-engaging later on with your shotgun or pistol down range, e.g.) and the scoring system, are what is really locking up a lot of the administrative work. If you are concerned, contact the MD as he's very approachable and is good at returning e-mails within a week. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 Well, I'm glad to know that you've heard you are on staff, Rich. But, I don't think the majority of the staff has heard anything official. My concern is with the future of 3 Gun competition within USPSA. Lots of people have put in some very hard work to keep 3 Gun alive--I'd hate to see that go down the drain because of poor administration/planning. I will not be at this year's match, because of scheduling problems. However, I'm still interested in the match being a success. But, like Mig, I'm not getting a good feeling about it. Arguing about the rules should not prevent the normal communication you'd expect from a well-organized Nationals-level match--especially with the match date less than 60 days away. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Troy- - Well said and couldn't agree more with you. Sorry to hear you won't be there just wouldn't be the same without you. Rich - We're 60 days out and we (competitors) have nothing. It not very reassuring for those us who are traveling from the opposite of the country. The lodging situation looks bleak as there is a Rodeo and Volleyball tournament in town and most (if not all) motels in that immediate area are sold out for that weekend. The information needs to get out as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Howdy, Yes, the Rodeo is in town, so get your lodging squared away ASAP. The match hotel is supposed to be the Western Village. Here is a Yahoo Info On WV Hotel The Nugget Courtyard (separate motel from the Nugget casino tower) is easy in and out with gear and might not be booked up yet. The La Quinta is a good motor inn that is near the Pyramid highway which is the road north to the range (24 miles from town). Here is the correct e-mail address for Monte Leveaux (US3G Match Director) who I am sure will assist all needing help in any way possible. nvwhitewater@charter.net The e-mail link on the Area 1 website for Monte is wrong and this one will work. If anyone wants a phone number for Monte, drop me a PM. Hope to see you all out here. I am sure it will be a great match. BTW, here is the USPSA info page with the rough match schedule http://www.uspsa.org/cgi-bin/majormatches.cgi?id=126 -- Regards, Geoffrey Linder TY-11141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I also have not recieved any info but they did cash the check yesterday so someone is doing something. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 George - The match motel is a truckstop motel & casino? I'll keep looking for a spot that isn't sold out for that weekend. Any word on round count or courses of fire? Could anyone provide some details about the Range itself, ie, layout, size, location, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Mig, Stay in Sparks or Carson City. After that, Reno isn't that far away and the rodeo that is in town that weekend, I don't believe is THE Reno Rodeo, so the rooms shouldn't be overly full. I would make reservations now though. As for the round count, that is being worked out, as there are a number of points of contention with regards to 3-Gun stage design vs. USPSA stage design. Once resolved, the MD will send out info on round count. It is being resolved though and the "rules" are the big hold up on it. As for the range, the Washoe County range is second to none. It's outside of Sparks off of Pyramid highway. If you have a tape of the 1995 pistol Nationals, it has all the info that you would need for range conditions. FYI, just 'cause it's June, doesn't mean it's going to be warm in Reno. Hope that helps. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 uscbigdawq - I don't have a copy of the 1995 Nationals tape or know anyone who does. Is there a website for the Range? Could we drive up and park at the bays or do have to cart our gear around? Do you know if golf carts rentals will be available like the 2003 3GN? I'm not sure if I understand what's the deal with the "3-Gun stage design vs. USPSA stage design" . Please explain if you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 George -The match motel is a truckstop motel & casino? I'll keep looking for a spot that isn't sold out for that weekend. Any word on round count or courses of fire? Could anyone provide some details about the Range itself, ie, layout, size, location, etc. If anyone remembers Arizona Charlie's from when the US3G was in Vegas, then I will say no more about match hotel choices. As Rich mentioned, you want to stay in Sparks, or the NE part of Reno rather than downtown Reno. The match is supposed to feature 15 stages with a lot of them being combo. The range is being heavily upgraded to handle this and future matches (it is a great range as it is, it will just be better). There are bays at Washoe that will allow some real long distance rifle shooting and Reno is at 4500 feet elevation so make sure that your rifle dope is known good beyond 200 yards at some elevation. Rich is also right about the weather, don't plan on it being short pants friendly, but don't plan on it being cold, or dry, or wet either. It can be all of these, even within the same day. I did my registration with credit card through the USPSA office directly and so far all I have is an Amex statement and an e-mail from USPSA saying they got my (e-mailed) PDF application form and processed my credit card. -- Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hi Geoff, Thanks for the save. Mig, The range facilities are more than adequate for anything that you can anticipate at a match. Basically, like Geoff mentioned, expect ANY kind of weather conditions and them changing in 30 minutes. It's not uncommon. Too, bring mag brushes and means to cover/protect guns from dust. It's probably pretty on par with Vegas. As for driving to the bays, I suppose that one could do that, but the bays are adjacent to one another and are not a far walk (even with all the gear we carry for 3-Gun). So, as for golf cart rentals, I'd say no. If you toating your gear is a concern, an investment in either one of the 3-Gun carts, or a good baby stroller (I'm not joking) would be a good idea. 15 stages with 13 of them being multi-gun. As for the stage design issues, there are other discussions on this site about that, but it's a hurdle that the BOD is diligently working through. It will be a great match! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 A whole lot can be done in 60 days. In my business, entire major productions with logistics that make a piddly national level shooting match pale in comparison are routinely handled in as little as a week or two, but then again you can solve most any problem if you throw enough money at it ;-)IMHO, Mikey & Monte won't let you all down. I am darned sure that this will be one of the best US3G's ever. No offense intended, but it's not putting the match on the ground that concerns me. USPSA doesn't have enough "money to throw at it", nor will that help people that need to make travel and vacation arrangements get those done in a timely fashion. It's not like a single company is producing the match, and supplying the staff, and providing the food, housing, etc.--it ain't a concert. Most of these things rely on volunteer effort--nobody is working full time on just producing the 3 Gun Nationals, AFAIK, and volunteer effort requires coordination and communication. Plus, consider the fact that if many of the staff need to fly in to get there, USPSA will only cover up to "X" dollars worth of transportation. The earlier and cheaper you can get tickets, the better. Lack of communication doesn't help with this. There may be enough volunteer staff from around the Reno area to cover a 15 stage, multi-gun match, but I doubt it. If the courses of fire haven't been sanctioned yet, the deadline has passed, for both USPSA and IPSC sanctioning. If the rules to cover said courses of fire haven't been approved yet, where does that leave the match? If and when they are approved, what will the effective date be? Will the RO's know those rules? What about actual shooting dates and times for the competitors, or even a simple, "we've received your entry fee, more info to come" letter, or some information that would help plan air transportation or driving arrangements? I think there's a bigger picture to think about than just putting up props and filling the water jugs. Again, no offense intended, but I'd also feel better about this if I were hearing all these assurances from someone who was actually involved in putting this on, like "Mikey" or Monte. BTW, I've worked on that range, and it seems like an excellent place to have a 3 Gun match. Make sure you clean the dust out between stages, and be prepared for changing weather, like they said. First time I went there, USPSA picked the Peppermill--not bad for a "match hotel". Again, though, economic concerns play into this selection like all the others. Just my 2 cents. I hope it's a whiz-bang affair, and good luck to those involved in it. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Hello all I am going to see if I can get ahold of Monte and get some more info here. I will report back as soon as I have some real poop. -- Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 Hey, George, sounds great! Have a good time. Like I said, I hope it's a wonderful success. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Tactical Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Troy: Have you seen my Targets in Action yet? I am a Rifle match sponsor, and would like to shoot a long range version, I'm developing, In the MOR. 10" or 12" Plates. I am proud to be supporting our Military in Iraq. The marines are using my system. Reno should be a gas. SeeYa, TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 Hi, Tombstone. I haven't seen them in action yet, but I hope they work well for you at long range, and I'm interested in using them in the future. Looks like a good system. Thanks for supporting the sport and the troops--if the Marines are using them, perhaps my son has fired a few rounds off at them by now. Good luck at the match. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAPEACH Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Here's a suggestion for those of you that are close to an airport that America West flys into. Go to 'www.americawestvacations.com' and buy your airfare and hotel to Reno. Most of the major hotels in Reno come up in their list including the Peppermill and you can get a great deal. I made my reservation that way and hotels that show sold out on their own come up and can be booked. See ya'll in Reno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillL223 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Received a confirmation yesterday (I'm on the East Coast). There was a note about the scarcity of rooms. I tried several before I found a vacancy, Econo Lodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Also recd my information yesterday. It contained the following: one page on USPSA 3GN items for sale, one page on the Jr. raffle, one page note about this year match, and one page on the lodging details and Reno offerings. It does mention the Rodeo and Volleyball tournament in town and the short supply of rooms. This information should have sent months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 anyone else getting a bit concerned? the match starts in about 6 weeks...no mention of rules implementation, no stage descriptions, round counts, etc...at least i have a room, but whether there's a match?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Sent Michael Voigt an email on the match and his reply reads in part, "As far as the rules are concerned, the BOD is working to get all of the details worked out very soon (hopefully by the end of the BOD meeting in Kansas City this weekend). As soon as the decisions concerning rules are made, we will post them to the website and also notify all of the 3 Gun competitors." I'm not sure what website he stated but I haven't been able to find anything related to the match. Still concern . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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