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Will there be seperate divisions for major/minor or are we all grouped into one? In other words am I at a disadvantage shooting a 9mm in tac lim?

You are a slight disadvantage if you don't shoot all A's.

HA! We are supposed to shoot all A's?

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This will be my 1st USPSA multigun. I have a few questions maybe you guys can answer..

Do they chrono rifle rounds?

Is the range a 3 gun cart type range or drive stage to stage?

No chrono...at least not last year.

Bring a cart, although if you park in the middle of the range you can walk back and forth to your vehicle if need be and it's not too far away.

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6" plates at 100 yards :surprise:

That entire stage is gonn be tough!!! Off hand 10" flashers at 300 are just as hard especially since it's Virginia Count. I hope someone shoots this stage in to see how it goes.

Will we need chamber flags for the long guns?

No, not Virgina Count, but fixed time. Hose it!!!!!

Looking forward to this match, always fun and good people!!

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No, not Virgina Count, but fixed time. Hose it!!!!!

Looking forward to this match, always fun and good people!!

I misread the stage description. I was thinking one round each meant Virginia count! Wow that makes a huge difference!!!

I was tracking VA count too. If this stage is really supposed to mirror the 2007 (or was it 2008) USPSA MG National LR stage in Princeton, LA, then it's only 1 rd per target with a par time. I personally hope it's not like that and we can "hose it" - I thought that particular stage in Princeton was one of the worst I've ever shot in a Major match.

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I read the description, and then the definition of fixed time and they can specify the number of rounds fired, and they did when they said "one". I hope I'm wrong but it may be one round at each only.

use your time to get your points, they can also increase target value.

Trapr

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Freestyle is/can be standing on your head.

There are other considerations: I personally can't/won't understand anyone NOT going prone on a stage that requires TWO hits at 300 yards. With that said, Cheryl and I went prone at the beep, and never completed 6 shots at 10" cardboard in less the 18 seconds. Reload? I ain't doin no stinkin reload!

Trapr has it on the money, get your hits. :bow:

and to keep the fires going :P

In the pistol rules:

9.2.4.2 Fixed Time must use paper targets exclusively and they should,

where possible, be disappearing targets.

In the rifle rules, if it's all steel, it must be comstock:

1.2.2.1 “Standard Exercises” - Courses of fire consisting of two or more

separately timed component strings. Scores, with any penalties

deducted, are accumulated on completion of the course of fire to

produce the final stage results. Standard Exercises must only be

scored using Virginia Count or Fixed Time. The course of fire

for each component string may require a specific shooting position,

procedure and/or one or more mandatory reloads. Standard

Exercises must not require more than 24 rounds to complete.

Component strings must not require more than 6 rounds (12

rounds if a mandatory reload is specified). A standards course

using only resetting steel targets will be scored using Limitied

Time Comstock.

and to add to the fog, in the MG rules:

Per 9.2.3.2, steel targets are not applicable in Virginia Count stages.

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freestyle means freestyle, anyway you want to engage, get after it.

Trapr

here is what I read,

9.2.4 “Fixed Time” – Limited time, limited number of shots to be fired, stipulated

number of hits per target to count for score.

9.2.4.1 A competitor’s score is calculated by adding the highest value

stipulated number of overall hits, minus penalties. The overall

stage results are not factored, and competitors are ranked by the

actual net points achieved by them.

9.2.4.2 If paper targets are used in Fixed Time stages they should, where

possible, be disappearing targets.

9.2.4.3 Fixed Time must only be used for Standard Exercises,

Classifiers, Medium or Short Courses.

9.2.4.4 Fixed Time must not be used in Level III or higher matches

except in respect of a Standard Exercise (see Rule 1.2.2.1).

9.2.4.5 Fixed Time courses of fire do not incur failure to shoot at or miss

penalties

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Well we just ran the scenario with a MGM colt popper at 100 and a flasher at 200. The best we could do on the 15 second prone was in average 4. We hit 5 a few times and 6 once shooting the 200 yard flasher in place of the 300 yard flasher since we were limited on distance.

Kneeling? I think we averaged 2 and hit 3 several times but it got 4 once it twice.

We ran the 20 second string standing and had similar results to the kneeling.

None of the shooting was what anyone would call easy!

Armageddon? I'm not sure what that would be referring to.

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Just between you me and a wall, I'm thinking this would be a fairly good stage - just forget the time limit and make it comstock. Then everyone has a chance to finish the stage. Maybe a 60 or 90 second limit to keep the stage moving.

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