benos Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 No new posts for me when I logged on and clicked VNC Brian, I've noticed some odd behavior in the Last Visit value. At the bottom the forum is a box on the right that indicates the current time and the time that the user was last logged on. This second value, called 'Last Visit' is not being set correctly. If VNC uses this value to determine what posts have been added since the last visit then it could mess up the results. Good one Paul. What is making you say it is not set correctly? It looked about right for me - when I came back from my last visit, I had a forum home page in another tab that was still there. So I looked at it before I reloaded the page and the time was about when I left. Also, the forum is set to know you are not here after you have not clicked anything for 15 minutes. I appreciate your help. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 When I powered up my Mac and logged on it said my Last visit was 7:11 am this morning. Later it said my last visit was 8:11 pm It could be a timeout for the session that causes the strange value, I'm not really sure. I am certain that something is getting corrupted with the markers for each user. Some are stored in Cookies and some are stored in the DataBase itself. I think something is happening to those values. That's why it impacts both search engines. They may be looking for bugs in the search engines but I think they need to be looking at the data that is stored in the DB and Cookies for the session values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) It found over 1000 entries since May.. Im trying something else. I marked all content as read, and will report back after a while to see if anything is better. Im getting good results now, and they are at accurate intervals. My results this morning on a different PC look good also. Its finding valid results back to about (:20 when I marked all content read. ETA - Its not accurate, its doubling posts on page 2 and 3 of VNC that should be on where on the first page. Edited August 11, 2010 by DWFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) When I powered up my Mac and logged on it said my Last visit was 7:11 am this morning. Later it said my last visit was 8:11 pm It could be a timeout for the session that causes the strange value, I'm not really sure. I am certain that something is getting corrupted with the markers for each user. Some are stored in Cookies and some are stored in the DataBase itself. I think something is happening to those values. That's why it impacts both search engines. They may be looking for bugs in the search engines but I think they need to be looking at the data that is stored in the DB and Cookies for the session values. IE8 My Time Now is off by over an hour. It's actually 7:22 and my last visit is off by several days. My actual last visit was yesterday evening. The values are the same whether I'm set to "since last visit" or "that I have not read". Time Now: Aug 11 2010 06:17 AM Last Visit: Aug 06 2010 09:09 PM Last activity on my profile page shows the correct time: Last Active: Today, 07:24 AM Both "since last visit" or "that I have not read" return the same results this morning in VNC. There are 145 new entries since Yesterday, 06:48 PM Edited August 11, 2010 by Steve J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Hmm... FYI: I just checked bottom-of-page 'Last Visit' and 'Time Now' and my time-now is accurate but the last-visit is several days and several hours behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Are we still set to Sphinx? VNC result or lack thereof this AM suggest it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Still set to Sphinx as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) What is Last Visit set to for you... ? Right now (10:43am EST) it says last night, but I was in and read messages this morning around 9am. FWIW, I signed out of the forum, closed the browser, and signed back in and the last visit changed to the current time. Makes me wonder if last visit is actually the last time signed in. Edited August 11, 2010 by Graham Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Arrgh. All settings per Brian's post, and was able to get new posts this morning around 6:30. At 11:20, "no new posts". As a previous poster noted, when I did get new posts, I found several of the posts repeated through the 8 or 9 pages of posts. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Arrgh. All settings per Brian's post, and was able to get new posts this morning around 6:30. At 11:20, "no new posts". As a previous poster noted, when I did get new posts, I found several of the posts repeated through the 8 or 9 pages of posts. BB Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 The VNC bug seems to re-set itself after a certain time period. I'll check it and have nothing (even though there are new posts.) I'll check it again an hour or two later and everything's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 That's the same issue I am seeing and it is what leads me to suspect that the problem is with the marker/cookie/variable that keeps track of the time and what topics you have read. They used to be stored as cookies but some/all of them may now be stored in the Database itself. If there is some corruption of that data, or the something is over-writing it then the VNC will give these un-predictable results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I wish it had been reset to the version that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Paul, I passed your observations on to IPS. Thank you, be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 From here on in this thread... From a tech ticket, I was told to have members log out and log back in, before testing VNC with Sphinx. So I will set the search to Sphinx again. And then please log out and log back in before testing VNC again. And report your findings in the VNC / Sphinx Topic. So in your post, from here on, please report that you logged out and back in before reporting your findings. Thanks, be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Well, I posted a new topic and it doesn't show up as new content and when I go to "posts/topics by Jthompson" it doesn't show up there either. I had to go the the forum it was in and open that to see it. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Also no new content again after logging out and back in too. Still not fixed whatever it is.................. Please switch it back if you could. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) IE8, set to view new content I have not read. At 3:45 CDT I logged out and logged back in. I see new content on the main page. I hit VNC and got this: There are 52 new entries since Today, 01:23 PM Without reading anything, I went back the the main page and hit VNC again. This was the result: No new content. I repeated the process and got: There are 58 new entries since Today, 01:23 PM I marked all read. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edited to add: I just checked the results again at 4:00 and got: There are 2 new entries since Today, 02:53 PM That is not right. The main page shows new posts in 4 different forums and it should be since 3:45, not 2:53PM Edited August 17, 2010 by Steve J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Testing... be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Set to 'Show me all new content since my last vist' Logged off and on again Hit VNC and got nothing Waited about 40 minutes: There are 19 new entries since Today, 02:19 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Weird. Before logging out, VNC / Spinx returned what apeared to be accurate results. Then after logging out/ back in, No Results Were Found. Maybe that's how it's supposed to work. Will check again after this post. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Weird. Before logging out, VNC / Spinx returned what apeared to be accurate results. Then after logging out/ back in, No Results Were Found. Maybe that's how it's supposed to work. Will check again after this post. be Yes, now only this thread was found with VNC. We'll let it run for a awhile and see how it goes after the log out. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Set to 'Show me all new content since my last vist' Logged off and on again Hit VNC and got nothing Waited about 40 minutes: There are 19 new entries since Today, 02:19 PM So 19 new entries in 40 minutes sounds about right. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It's not though... you should see a new top called "Obscured? What does it mean?" It's not showing up since I posted it about 20 mins ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It seems to be working for me. (Didn't see JT's post though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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