bthp Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I was just curious as to what distance people generally zero their rifle scope for 3 gun matches (assuming you aren't using one of the scopes with the BDC type reticle). I have heard everything from 25 yards to 300 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You might glean some good info from Here and Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 50 & 200yds. But I'm no expert. Lots of good info on the links Merlin provided. MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezco Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 My guess is it depends on the distances you typically see at the matches you attend. I the Ohio Valley a long shot is typically 100 yards and I can hear the guys out West laughing right now, but it is what it is. I sight my gun/ACOG in at 100 yards as the rise on closer shots is minimal for the speeds at which I try to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMcG Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 200 yards on my primary optic and 50 yards on my red dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 This is one of those threads where I wished the Original Poster (the OP) would list his location. I'm not all that much of a 3 gunner, but I reckon that a few folks here on the board could give him better advice depending on if he is in the southwest versus say the east coast. As in..."Oh, yeah, I have shot at the XYZ club near you. They routinely shoot out to 100/200/300/400 yards." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I shoot in the hills of Kentucky so 100-150 is about as far as we are going to see for the majorities of our matches. I use a 50 yard zero, that brings me back in at 200 and is close enough for everything from 5-100 for just point and shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You might glean some good info from Here and Here. Merlin is explaining the merits of doing a search on a common topic. Many times a search will yield the answers you are seeking rather starting a repetitive topic. Just FYI for future topics. Its considered good practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurch Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I use iron sights but it's the same thing for zeroing. I zero first at 50 yards and then fine tune the zero at 200 yards. Most loads for at least for .223 will hit virtually the same at 50 yards and 200 yards for the same zero. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 My guess is it depends on the distances you typically see at the matches you attend. I the Ohio Valley a long shot is typically 100 yards and I can hear the guys out West laughing right now, but it is what it is. I sight my gun/ACOG in at 100 yards as the rise on closer shots is minimal for the speeds at which I try to shoot. All my local 2-gun (rifle/pistol) is inside a 30-yard bay. I shoot a circle/dot reticle Millet. The dot is at POI 25 yards. The bottom of the circle is POI at 5 yards. Works for my matches. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 typically 30,000 cm. for both irons and optics. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthp Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Ah, thanks for the input and links, that was what I was looking for. I tried the search, but obviously I didn't get it right. I shoot in the east, but occasionally travel to matches out west such as the SMM3G. However, I have some farmland that allows me to shoot here at distances of 600 yards and beyond (not that I can necessarily hit anything that far out). Anyway I ran across a very good deal on Swarovski scopes. A dealer here is closing out the line. Unfortunately, he didn't have the Z6 1 x6, but he did have a non illuminated Z6 1.7 x10 and an illuminated Z6 2 x 12. I normally don't like the 1.5 as a starting point, but for some reason, I wasn't really opposed to the 1.7. It still has approximately 75 ft fov at 100 yards and I seemed to pick up things somewhat quick with it on the 1.7 setting. Since it is a pretty good deal, I was considering picking up one of these and using one of the side mounted JP iron sites. I spent a good bit of time in the Swarovski booth at SHOT this year admiring the 1 x 6, but I didn't really investigate the 1.7. When I tried out the 1.7 this afternoon, it really didn't seem much, if any slower than the Swarovski PV 1.5 x 6 that they had (I didn't like the 1.5's reticle). I guess I'm changing subjects a bit, but does anyone have an opinion on this idea? Do those JP sights work pretty good? I was considering the Burris XTR, but I was really impressed with the Swaros. Oh, the reticles were the plex in the 1.7 x 10 and the 4-AI in the 2 x 12. That's kind of why I was wondering about the zero distances. My other scopes have the BDC drop lines in the reticle. Sorry about the rambling post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bore Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 typically 30,000 cm. for both irons and optics. trapr I usually zero my irons a little closer: 274.32 meters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've been using a 251,460 millimeter (275 yd) zero and it works well for me. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've been using a 251,460 millimeter (275 yd) zero and it works well for me. Doug Is that in nautical millimeters, or linear? Gotta figure in for curvature of the earth. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Optics- 200 yards Irons- 300 yards Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Being new to rifles, I had always assumed that there was some "standard distance" to use for a zero and that was 100yds. After seeing people talk about doing a zero at ranges from 50 to 275 yds, I decided to do some reading and found some information that suggested using ballistics charts to find an optimal zero. I'm still experimenting but it would appear that for me, shooting a .223 69gr SMK at 3000fps, a 50yd zero would cover me ±2" from 0 to 275yds. Still more research to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Being new to rifles, I had always assumed that there was some "standard distance" to use for a zero and that was 100yds. After seeing people talk about doing a zero at ranges from 50 to 275 yds, I decided to do some reading and found some information that suggested using ballistics charts to find an optimal zero. I'm still experimenting but it would appear that for me, shooting a .223 69gr SMK at 3000fps, a 50yd zero would cover me ±2" from 0 to 275yds. Still more research to go. Are you actually getting 3000fps out of an AR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthp Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Graham, What barrel length/rifle twist are you using? The 69 grain Federal Gold Medal is what I generally shoot with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Are you actually getting 3000fps out of an AR? Don't know. Right now I'm just learning so I'm working mainly on theory. 3000 fps is the top end for Varget and AA2230 which are the two powders I have. I don't think I can make that because I only have an 18" barrel (1 in 8) 5.56 but 2900 should be possible and the ballistics are not that much different - unless of course I'm really screwing up the calculations - which is equally possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Graham, The load data may be in a 24" barrel. Not to mention it's in a bolt action, or test fixture. Check your 18" AR for actual velocity, and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickbeijer Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I have some factory Sellier & Bellot ammo factory loaded with 69 siera matchkings that are doiing 2950 average out of my 20'' CTR02 upper. i zero my rifle at 225 meters(245yds),but for our indoormatches i zero at 100 meters (110 yds) because off the max distance off 100 meters there. We use alot off clay targets at our indoor ipsc matches at 100 meter stages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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