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That is not what the rule book says.

Here is a guide I found in an article about shooting range construction. Examples of maximum ranges Table A.1 – Shot cartridges 1 2 Shot size / diameter (mm) Maximum range (m) 7 to 9 / 2 to 2,5 mm 200 BB / 4 mm 350 Buckshot, greater than 5 mm 1200

Pat, your research made my jaw drop. I almost dont believe it, but the numbers dont lie. It it truly unbelievable how many people go through life with their "cruise-control" set on "clueless". Huh? How does number of internet forum postings translate to cluelessness? Also, those numbers total 44%.... what category do the remaining 56% fall into? He did not report the group of 1-99 posts so that must be the other 56%. I would also be interested in how this data has anything to do with cluelessness. In fact if you follow this logic the members with the most clue might be the ones running their post count up in the thread labeled "Which one?" which appears to be over 3000 posts of useless info (I'll admit I have not read all of it.....maybe I'm wrong ).

If you are doing it to remove weight why not machine all the way to a bushing barrel profile and put a bushing in it?

I count, one two...three four...etc. It is more productive than "bang bang" as you are going to have to count rounds at some point anyway.

50 yards and in sure is close to be shooting steel with a rifle

Well done!

Apparently Phil was hit with 8 procedurals. He was arguing whether or not 8 procedurals (one for each shot fired with the ammo can at his belt) were warranted since no significant advantage was gained by having the ammo can at his belt and not 2 or 3 inches lower. He was arguing that it was not like he was stepping over a fault line to gain an advantage and therefore should only receive 1 procedural. Someone mentioned throwing the stage out. I think that would result in throwing both of these stages out. We had a guy on our squad do the same thing on stage 9 and he got 4 procedurals. I know it happened to several others. So, throwing it out might affect two stages. Maybe it would be more appropriate to arbitrate based on the fact that the stage does not present a challenge and then allow you to solve it in a freestyle manner as required by 1.1.5.

What happened to the freestyle element that rule 1.1.5 requires? I understand that the WSB can dictate a particular start position, but it would appear to me that the requirement to hold your arm a certain way should not be allowed as it clearly goes against solving a challenge in a freestyle manner. 1.1.5 Freestyle – IPSC matches are freestyle. Competitors must be permitted to solve the challenge presented in a freestyle manner, and to shoot targets on an “as and when visible” basis. Courses of fire must not require mandatory reloads nor dictate a shooting position or stance, except as specified below. However, conditions may be created, and barriers or other physical limitations may be constructed, to compel a competitor into shooting positions or stances.

I guess that depends on what you mean by resources. I would bet that if those shooters which look for unintended loopholes in stage setup would instead show up early and help setup/game proof stages, then yes in that environment the resources would most likely exist to set it up freestyle. From what I have seen most clubs have a small core group of individuals who set up the match while the majority of the shooters are either still sleeping or casually enjoying breakfast. You want to shot good stages in a freestyle manner?....show up early and help setup and game proof the stages. Edited to add that this is not directed toward you Flex.

With a comp ?

Yea I guess it could be done that way. I never considered it as an option due to the potential scoring issues with shoot throughs that it creates any time you space a no shoot at a distance in front of a shoot target to force shooting positions.

Any idea how this stage fits in to the stage design criteria in the current rulebook? 1.2.1.2 “Medium Courses” must not require more than 16 rounds to complete and no more than 3 shooting locations. Course design and construction must not require more than 9 scoring hits from any single location or view, nor allow a competitor to eliminate a location or view in the course of fire by shooting all available targets at an earlier location or view. Edited to add link to stages http://www.nroi.org/nationals/downloads/stagebinder.pdf

WD40 with a Qtip first and then any good glass cleaner will do a good job of removing powder residue from the lens.

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I use a "U" die on every pistol caliber I load, and it takes putting the round in a vise (no powder or primer of course) to get any bullet setback.

It looks like the new rules will cover that situation. 10.4.3 A shot which occurs while loading, reloading or unloading a firearm. This includes any shot fired during the procedures outlined in Rule 8.3.1 and 8.3.7.

:Yep, all us foogies do...I have 6 but no cell phone, cause I need some privacy...and it is rude and discourteous to use them EVERY FRICKEN place like all the young people do...driving (dangerous), in the library (rude), at restaurants (discourteous, I don't need to be part of your conversation and don't want to listen to it).... Thanks for asking... Tloop I agree that cells could be used in a more courteous manner ( I leave it on vibrate and let it go to voice mail if not appropriate to answer, and the same for privacy). Just got tired of 95% of my home phone calls being junk calls. Did not mean to offend anyone......guess I should have put this little guy in my original post .

WOW.....people still have home phones?

Man I'd really like to believe that, and clearly it minimizes problems, but I own a new Popper with perfect steel - made for rifles (water cut armor plate) and shoot it only with 40 / 45 pistol. And I have been hit several times at 15 yards by a direct reflected fragment. Nothing bad yet, but it can happen. I wish I had the answers... You can believe it.......... if you read exactly what EricW is saying. "Properly designed and placed" does not mean that it only has to have a flat plate of good steel, it must also be designed without any surfaces protruding forward of the plate. Notice that quality with MGM,s popper http://www.mgmtargets.com/products/poppers.shtml Now I don't know what your rifle target looks like, but most are not designed to be shot at close range and may have flat surfaces of the supporting assembly in the splatter zone, which will send material uprange. When choosing and setting up steel to be shot with a pistol look at the target and visualize a stream of high pressure water hitting the plate and if the spray that would radiate from that comes into contact with any flat surface (other than dirt) it is probably not safe for use at typical pistol distances. This is not meant to be a rebuttal (I hate frag injuries as much as the next guy), just trying to shed some light on what really causes fragments to return uprange, and in my opinion it has absolutely nothing to do with the design of the bullet.

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You can find lots of good info at http://www.snipershide.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm and Zak Smith's website http://demigodllc.com/ scroll about 1/2 way down for a good article on optics.

Thanks for the replys, one last question. I see where some competitors put the scope on the barrel as opposed to the receiver. I asked about this and was told the receiver is aluminum asnd the barrel is steel, the receiver may slightly move but if the barrel does the scope is attached to that. Anyone know of this?? thanks It is best to mount the scope to the barrel. Here is a link to the mount that AlamoShooter talks about in his post. https://www.volquartsen.com/vc//pages/publi...Items.jsp?id=34

Yea.....the piece count for a 55 gal barrel would have needed some more 0s as well as the price

The last that I ordered in 38 super, the drum was not a drum or bucket for that matter, but rectangular cardboard boxes wieghing 61lbs each and holding 6500 rounds each. Minimum order was 19500 or 3 drums/boxes for the discount.