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That could be a lot of fun to watch for us shooters but might not be as dramatic, and the guys who are the tactical experts would be at a disadvantage anginst top level competition guys.

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Good luck Jarhead, I was part of the "Combat Pistol Team" at Cherry Point back in the late 80's, it was tough getting support back then because no one respected anything except bulls-eye shooting and division matches. But we have enough support working with the MTU to travel around the area to compete. If you have specific questions about what you need there is all the information in the world that you looking for on this forum. To help you we need a little more information about your needs. equipment: Are you limited to marine issue stuff? Buy your own? Have a budget to purchase? Hosting matches: Do any of you have experience as match directors with a uspsa style competitions? If the answer is no, I would recommend you recruit some one from a club that is close to you to help out, it isn't necessary to re-invent the wheel if you can get some experienced people in the area. This will help you host a quality match instead of a good ol boy shoot! operations: how you can organise this depends on what you have to work with, to get started I would try to emulate the army's competition program to start. They have a huge head start on you and some of the finest shooters on the planet. You asked for a lot of info and this can be a great resource for you but you need to break down your needs a little better so the people on here can help you more effectively. Everything you need to know is available on this forum, you just need to figure out how to access and apply it to your situation. I have great respect for the Quantico Marines, I envy your challenge, enjoy this opportunity, even though the Marines have a magical gift to take something that could be so much fun and make it suck, its all good.

Why do you say that? Don't get me wrong, the Glock is a very good gun but it isn't an STI! And the comp's for the STI's are heavier than most offered Glock comps. Both my STI's seem to shoot flatter than the Glock, most likely to the weight difference, but still flatter. I don't know if it worth the price difference to everyone but it is to me. Doug I miss-understood what you were saying, I don't think anyone disputes the sti platform vs glock for a open gun, but all of us glock guys either do it because we can or as a cheaper route or because we like them. I watched some of the top shooters at area 5 shooting open and there is no way they could perform like they did with an open glock.

Why do you say that?

The fault line is to the pepper poppers is 26 feet I misspoke.

Yes we explained to our first time shooter that this is unusually hard so don't think we do this a lot. He borrowed everything he used to shoot that day because he owns a compact carry setup, but the next day he bought the entire production rig. So he is helplessly hooked.

Yes the boots are not a fashion statement, we have had our share, and more of rain this year.

Fixed. LOL It was fun we video taped everyone shooting it, the pepper poppers are approx 25 feet and the star is right behind them, I had considered a few different things but thats what I ended up with. I thought about putting a solid wall in front to block the view of the star but now I'm glad I didn't because it was hard enough. I thought about plastering no shoots on the wall to keep it from getting shot. But it was very popular with everyone except whoever was in the shooters box.

I designed this stage so you had to shoot the texas star from the bottom, we had a lot of fun with it.

Nope +1 you already know what you need to do.

I shoot a SJC glock 17 9mm major and I just hit 175 PF at area 5 with 7 grains of auto comp with a MT 124 round nose and also use JHP, I wouldn't personally shoot a 147 gr bullet, 7 grains of auto comp doesn't make you flinch like some open guns, I love this load and it is very easy to load. My OAL is 1.145 i use federal primers with no issues.

whats the difference between a 24 and a 35? barrel and slide length?

I would have loved to see this conversation as long as it ended at the shooting line and involved instructors mumbling to them selves. They told me: My speed is acceptable but I should work more on accuracy I would shoot better with a Glock 22 My mag pouches are in the wrong spot I do not load the gun correctly I do not charge the gun up correctly My gun is too complicated for carry I do not release the slide correctly Did they offer to show you the correct way to do it, can I video tape your way (you) and their way (them) I would pay to see it. In the mean time please keep working on accuracy! ROFL

I would have loved to see this conversation as long as it ended at the shooting line and involved instructors mumbling to them selves.

any issues with shooting Berry plated bullets at around 1400 fps?

I tried 165 and 135 with autocomp the 135's are the only way to go, they feel as good as you can get with an open 40. I have since switched to 9mm major, I have a box (1000) unopened 135 grain they just got here from a back order from last year if you interested let me know. I might post them in the classified section later, I figured it would cost me to much to return them.

I switched to a glock now though. I will have one at area 5. OK whoever hacked into Bens account get off now and we wont call the internet police!

I wouldn't choose between those guns for softer recoil, the 40 can feel a little softer because to get the same power factor you can use a much heavier bullet. I shot production with a 35 using 185 grain moly bullets with solo 1000. Heres the bottom line. Make you decision based on ammo cost and availability, and if you are or not going to reload. The good thing about buying a 35 is very easy to make minor with a lot of different loads, if you want to shoot a different division you have more choices and still be competitive, production, limited, limited 10. The bad thing about 35's is if your not reloading buying ammo suited for shooting minor is tough, and expensive. It costs a little bit more to shoot 40 than it does to shoot 9mm if you are reloading. Depending on how much you shoot is how much that matters.I have shot both 9mm with 147's and 40 with 185's shooting production. Makes no difference to me, you get used to which ever one you are shooting. When I shoot 40 minor my load ends up as a 140 power factor because thats about what it takes to cycle the gun the way I like it. 9mm cycles better because a lighter bullet has to go faster to make minor so you can theoretically make lower power factor rounds easier and still get the gun to cycle. But you could do that by buying lighter bullets for the 40 cal. All that being said I wouldn't choose between them based on recoil, as long as they are in the same ball park they will both shoot close enough to each other to make no difference in your shooting. Ultimately make your choice based on what you see your self doing. If you are going to only shoot production, 9mm is cheaper to reload. If you think like most people you want to move around and try different divisions you might want to think about a 35. what is harder to do for you spend a little bit more each month to shoot a 40 or down the road buy another gun to shoot limited if you feel the urge to move. If it was me if i was reloading i would buy a 35 if i was shooting factory ammo I would buy a 34, but me personally I wouldn't shoot factory ammo if I was serious about shooting.

never mind I finally got it

That is a nice piece of work, picture wise I might have tried something different, in my head a see a larger collage of more pictures filling the entire frame with no empty space, or a target shaped collage with the green mat border, when I was younger i made some collages by cutting the photos and arranging them like a puzzle to fill the spot, now a days someone good with Photoshop could make something cool and print it in parts of the whole.

we need your hip shooting videos

Back in the day you used to hold the trigger while you let the slide go forward to keep the sear from bouncing (or some such reason) I never understood it but they used to do it. I have done it a couple times even though I never had a perfect trigger job like they do nowadays, but I was always nervous about it, seemed like a bad idea even before it was illegal. I seen some people hold the hammer back for the same reason, but back then I had a ed brown beaver tail and it was very hard for me to hold the hammer.

Tg and moly bullets dont play well together, Im assuming lead is the same!

anyone have a update on this, the old link dosent work