ryan45kim

My minor 40 S&W load is 4.0gr of clays @1.135 with a Bayou 140gr bullet This gives me 975fps average in my M&P PRO 5” with a stock barrel

I would rank the hardness of CCI small pistol primers between Winchester small pistol and Winchester small rifle. I feel Winchester and CCI are pretty close but the Winchester is definitely softer. If you are getting light hits with the Winchesters you might want to make sure they are fully seated.

CCI primers are harder then winchester

Problem is no one makes an oversized gunsmith fit barrel for the M&P yet. The Bar-Sto barrel was supposed to be released months ago, and I can’t find anything from them or Apex about when the barrel will be released. Storm Lake does not list any oversized barrels for sale for the M&P. G&R tactical is supposedly releasing a storm lake gunsmith fit barrel sometime but they won’t sell it unless they fit it and I’ve been burned by that company once already they will not get any more of my money. I started asking KKM about an oversized gunsmith fit barrel 2 years ago. They told me that they would like to release one but do not have the time to design one now, they are to busy. If I’m missing someone please let me know but I don’t know of anyone selling a gunsmith fit oversized barrel for the M&P.

What does that mean

glad I could help

I have M&Ps in 9mm and 40 S&W and this is what I can tell you from my guns. The OD on my 9mm and 40 S&Ws are identical down to the thousandth same with the holes in the end of the slide. These interchange without a problem. The breach face on the 9mm is smaller then the 40 S&Ws. The barrel hood is also smaller on the 9mm barrels. So you can drop a 9mm barrel into a 40S&W slide but the barrel hood fit will be sloppy. None of my 40S&W barrels would fit the breach face of my 9mm, the barrel hood is to large.

well the 4 m&ps I have all have the same size OD barrels barrel hoods are different sizes

any updates how is the testing going

what is the difference

I second the brass limited magwell I'd love to have another

I don’t know why so many people get rid of the M&P Pro rear sight. It’s almost the same opening as the Sevigny sights that so many people love on there Glocks. I like them so much I put one on my standard M&P to match the pro. I do run Dawson front sights .115 wide and the proper height for my point of aim.

I’m pretty sure the DPMS and Clark are both standard 2” tubes. I have no idea what the AP is.

Thanks guys I’ve been thinking about putting my rifle on a diet so I’m trying to figure out the best ways to save some weight. This is the biggest saving I found so far; it would save 7oz vs the Nordic that I currently run.

Thanks for the response. I was thinking they are made by the same company and relabeled by others but since I’ve never seen either one in person I’m just guessing unless I would order both to examine. The only difference I can see is that the Clark comes with a front sling stud installed. So since you used both tubes do you have any recommendations?

Thanks for the replies guys but no one has answered the question, is there any difference between the two besides the name?

From the descriptions I've read both the DPMS and the Clark are glued onto the barrel nut. I've never seen one besides on line but my impression is that they both are the same carbon fiber tubes and aluminum barrel nuts that are glued together. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=32439/avs%7CMake_3=AR-15zz1zzM4/avs%7CManufacturer_1=DPMS%20FIREARMS%20LLC/Product/AR-15-M16-CARBON-FIBER-FREE-FLOAT-TUBE http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4998/Product/CLARK-CUSTOM-AR-15-CARBON-FIBER-HANDGUARD

does anyone know?

What is the difference between the DPMS carbon fiber free float tube and the Clark Custom carbon fiber free float tube? The only difference I can see is the Clark comes with a sling stud. Has anyone used both and can give a review? Thanks, Ryan

Thanks for the heads up I was unaware of the storm lake oversized barrel (I only knew about the drop in). Unfortunately these are like the apex bar-sto barrels, hey look at these pictures we will have them sometime. O well back to dreaming.

Sadly they only make drop in barrels for the M&P. I have had KKM barrels in several 1911s and they are great but a drop in barrel in nothing but a crap shoot it might be better then factory it might not. Remember the biggest part of a good shooting barrel is fit. Gunsmith barrels can be fit perfectly to your gun, drop in barrels???????

There are no gunsmith fit barrels for the M&P at this point just drop ins. I’ve talked to several companies that say they are working on them but after over a year of hearing “soon” I’ve lost hope.

I shot lots of frontier bullets when I could get them for $35 per k. Now they are so close to Montana gold that I will not buy them anymore (unless I find a really good deal). There is nothing wrong with them they are a plated bullet just like Berrys, Rainier, or Speer. If you are looking for a good economical bullet I would tell you to buy Bayou bullets. They are more accurate then the frontiers were for me, they are cheaper, and it takes less powder to make power factor. I always thought the plated bullets could be great but the companies that make them tend to put price far ahead of quality (should be sized like lead .001 over bore size) and they are so close in price to good jacketed bullets that I’m amazed they are still in business.

any updates how is the testing going