Poppa Bear

I will admit I never really pay attention to depth. I know the feeling of fully seated and never look to see if they are high or not. I just know they are fully seated.

The force required to seat a primer should is probably about 50% greater than the force needed to size a case. The downward motion is pushing the primer out, the motion to the rear is seating the primer in place. If you need a LOT more pressure to seat it than needed to deprime it then something is out of alignment...Do you feel ANY scraping or binding if you move the handle through its full range of motion without any cases in the press? If the answer is yes then you need to figure out what is binding. if the answer is no then you need to determine why the case is not aligning properly with the primer arm/ cup.

Meet with them and explain rules. Walk them through the stages and commands as they shoot. Whatever we can do to keep them and us safe.

In a red metal file cabinet. Bullets on a shelf.

You need 4 for the initial. They will then score you on the best 6 of your most recent 8 that are not duplicated. So you will have 6 Y's as the best, and 2 F's for the worst 2 of the most recent 8. Everything else will be B's, D's and E's that signify scores that are not valid with the occasional A or C thrown in.

I did not even think about it when we shot it. I knew it was 5 feet unless specified, but I could not have told you where to find it. Now I know where I saw it originally.

You could have saved yourself a good bit of grief if you had admitted when you posted the video that your finger was in the guard and flirting with the trigger at several times. A big part of improving is to admit your mistakes.

I agree but I have shot many matches where the have assessed 1 per shot for failing to hold the object in the right position, or having the object fall off the table.

If they address it directly by writing it into the WSB then one per, otherwise one for failure to follow the WSB.

I have a King Tuk myself for my 1911. Works well and I use it whenever I decide to carry that gun.

This is the important part. A good belt is important, the proper pants are just as important. The looser the clothing the more the holster will move around. I use either a Galco Concealable, or a Sparks VM-2 for that reason. My belt might be solid but my pants tend to be looser around the hips and butt. Both holsters attach through either sewn in belt loops (Galco) or thumb snap loops (VM-2) and are a wide base across my belt so that the belt is what is actually holding everything solid. You also have to consider what you are doing throughout the day. Sitting at a desk, or in a vehicle requires a different holster than one used for walking or standing a majority of the day.

Just to get picky, some of the fault could also lie with the RO. When I am running a 1911/2011 shooter I am watching for the upwards thumb movement that signifies the application of the safety. I have stopped one or two shooters before they could holster to verify that the safety was engaged. New shooters have enough stress just trying to make it through the match while remembering the basics. I expect them to forget things as the match goes on, and I try to anticipate the DQ'able errors before they can commit them. In every case they appreciated me reminding them or stopping them because the adrenaline rush has turned their brain to mush. I can also appreciate what they are going through because I just started training into a new area of operations at work. That first week it was trying to learn how everything functioned, keep it functioning, and all the while documenting the numbers. How do the others make it look so easy??? Now I have the basics down and I make that look easy, but I still need assistance at problems that might show up only once a week or month. As the months and years go by my experience level will increase to where I will be the one teaching the newer people how to fix the problems. We as RO's need to remember that we were all new shooters at one time ourselves.

My definition would be a 180 degree arc formed between the rear sight and the front sight. If that arcs path will pass outside the 90 degree median or the 180 line then the muzzle is up range. If that arc is inside the 90 degree median or 180 line then it is down range. My favorite versions of an uprange facing start are outside the shooting area, unloaded on prop, or loaded on prop. Force or give the shooter time to safely turn fully down range before they can access their gun.

I would rule based on what I saw. Why was the gun dropped? Experienced shooter has a quality holster and they know to not let go of the gun until it is fully seated and secured into the holster. The new shooter usually has something cheap and I have seen a few drop the gun as soon as it starts to enter the holster rather than hold onto it and seat it by hand. Did he miss the holster? Did it catch and pivot out? Maybe I am unusual in this respect but when I issue the holster command, I watch the gun go into the holster and wait for the hand to come off of it before I issue range is clear. Two, how did the shooter manage to retrieve the gun before the RO could stop them from? Again I am watching the gun go in so that shooter would have to be moving real quick to even attempt to bend over let alone get their hand back on the gun. 999 times out of 1,000 I would be issuing a DQ. That 1 out of 1000 would be the unusual circumstance of the holster breaking and the gun falling through, or some other situation where the shooter was trying to do it right but it happened through no fault of their own. I have experienced one broken holster and the shooter saved the gun from going down because he did not let go. We bagged the gun and he went back to the safety area to insert a new temporary screw to hold where the rivet broke. He then bought a better holster.

The new bushing plug has a hole in the middle that allows the guide rod to pass through it.

As long as it is in violation of 10.5.11. The OP has not said whether the gun in question is a Single Action used in Lim/L-10/SS/Open. A Select Fire used in Prod/Lim/L-10/Open. Or, a Double Action used in Prod/Lim/L-10/Open/Rev. If the RO thinks that ALL guns with external safeties need them applied prior to being holstered even if the hammer is down they would be interpreting the rules wrong. The easy rule to remember is that if the hammer is cocked the safety needs to be applied. If the hammer is not cocked then the safety does not need to be applied. This even works for SS because the only time they are required to have the safety applied is for a loaded start. An unloaded start has the hammer down on an empty chamber.

No real choice if shooting Production. You must start hammer down as per App D4 Special conditions: — Handguns with external hammers must be fully decocked at the start signal,

When you set up your press did you tighten the allen screws that lock the primer arm in place while the handle was pressed forward to center it in the shell plate? If the cup is not centered it could be binding a bit on the case. In other words as you try to prime the case the primer is forced to try and center the case and the case does not have room to move because it is already tight against the shell plate. A quick way to check is to push forward on the handle without a case in the press. If you feel any binding at all you have an alignment issue.

So to answer the OP's question. Once the hand leaves the butt of the gun 10.5.11 comes into play. If the gun has the hammer cocked then it is an immediate DQ if it is readied for the COF without having the safety engaged. Most shooters apply the safety as soon as they load a round into the chamber. I have seen a few click the safety off and then back on before placing it in the holster or prior to being placed wherever the off body start position dictates. To me they are verifying that the safety is engaged prior to removing their hand because they do not want to get DQ'ed. I see even more give the safety another push to check that it is in the proper position. However their routine works, it is the routine they follow for every COF.

Paired together it answers that question. 8.1.2.3 “Selective action” – chamber loaded with hammer fully down, or chamber loaded and hammer cocked with external safety engaged (see Divisions in Appendix D). 10.5.11.2 A double action or selective action pistol with the hammer cocked and the safety not applied.

Right now there are no options for stage 1. Whether you go left or right after the center start you must engage specific targets from specific areas. Adding ports to the front walls allows shooters to take 2 paper and 2 steel from a couple of positions. Run through the stage as if you were shooting REV-6, REV-8, SS (9 rounds), Prod (11 rounds) or Lim and Open where it can be shot with 1 mag. It will be a follow the leader stage. With the extra ports the shooters will at least have some choices for where they reload.

I was thinking of the two parallel to the rear walls on stage 2. Understanding the actual shooting area on stage 1 now I might add a port to walls 3 and 4. I would also place NS around the ports otherwise you will be busy determining which shots passed through the walls next to the ports. It is also easier to paste up a NS than it will be to patch up each new hole in the wall.

If you number your walls 1 - 6 going left to right, I would take walls 3 and 4 and replace them with walls 1 and 6. This opens up some different areas for people to try and engage targets from. I would take the areas covered by walls 1 and 6 and replace them with No Shoots that allow easy shots if you are close to the area but a higher risk and higher reward time wise shot from a greater distance. On stage 2 are the back targets NS leaving just the head available? If not what purpose do they serve? I would narrow up the rear shooting area to reduce the likelihood of having a shoot through onto the NS covered targets at the left and right sides. If someone moved far enough to either side they could engage them from the outside of the rear shooting area.

Nik. I think he meant he kept the muzzle clear of the RO.

It was low 40's so it was not bad at all. A week ago when it was 15 to 20 below zero!!