TonytheTiger

A drill and drill bits of course! And a dremel if your feeling wild. They're apparently surface hardened so it helps to grind a tiny flat spot to get your bit started though. Found out you can't start them on the curved surface, right after a bit slipped and popped out the far side of my hand... it hurt.

Just saw one at a match yesterday, no offense but it was alot bigger and uglier than I thought they where. And for what it's worth the owner didn't really have anything good or bad to say about it.

Sorry, no advice for you other than to check and double check the gun and optic. That's just terrible accuracy if everything else is squared away, and 14.5 inches shouldn't be a limiting accuracy factor at those ranges. Could've always just bought an AK?

Yup, my weak hand loading career started with the 3gn/kurtm video awhile back. I understand how it's done and I can usually troubleshoot any issues I run into, I still don't know what caused my problem but apparently starting over solved it. BTW I got 8th fastest time out of 54 shooters in all classes on the all shotgun 30 target stage, I was really happy with that for my 2nd real 3g match. Unfortunately I also got my first DQ so my time doesn't appear on the scoreboard so I can't prove my claim. Oh well, live and learn.

When I first set up my backyard range I shot rifle and slugs inside of 15 yards on swinging steel because I was dumb, curious and wanted to see where I wouldn't allow guests to shoot from. With eye protection on nothing fatal or life changing occurred but there was bleeding and I got real good at tweezing copper out of my arms. I'm not condoning such behavior, there's no saying I wasn't an inch away from something bad happening. Since then thousands of rounds outside of 30yds have got me nothing more than some scratches but I make my guests take a few more steps back.

Ditto. I've always thought it was a cute comp but never heard much about it.

Your right indeed. I asked because assuming your using good ammo, have a solid rest and consider yourself able to shoot groups to the rifles potential... 1.5 moa is a little underwhelming. If you really think that's all the barrel can do I would consider looking elsewhere. There's plenty of great barrels out there for under $300, and if anythings worth spending a little extra on I'd say the most important part of a rifle qualifies.

1.5 moa or 1.5 inches at 200?

Yeah I'll be getting into reloading eventually, not in the budget just yet. Hopefully I can purchase my competition pistol this month then I'm all set for guns and I can start putting more green towards reloading equipment.

The article on it in the book of the ar15 magazine said lighter loads where a no go. Kinda killed interest for me.

You've got a good point there. My best shooting 22's group sizes get larger in a linear fashion till about 80-85yds, then shtf. I also theorized dropping below the sound barrier had a significant effect on things but I didn't think to start below the sound barrier. Maybe it's cause it hits 6 inches low at 50yds with subsonic match ammo and I don't care to re zero for it or turn my turret all the way to the stop then holdover two feet to shoot 100 with it.

That just made my night. Thank you for that! +1 for sighting it in between 25 and 50 yards, and aiming high at 100. What good is a giant forum full of like minded individuals if you can't get a good chuckle now and then? You have my permission to use that someday and pretend you came up with it.

That's funny, I'm a muzzle down guy myself but the last match I went to I got yelled at something fierce until I started walking around with it straight up. This was 20 miles from the nearest abandoned house, not sure what the big deal was.

Thanks for the ideas guys. I ended up giving up on fast loading entirely, started all over going really slow like I was just learning all over again. Worked back up to speed slowly over the last few days and I'm back to normal, or so it seems. I got a match tomorrow with an all shotgun 35+ round stage so we'll see how it goes.

Does the word dummy stay on those for awhile? I practice outside with live ammo and after ten good fast loads all the letters are completely gone.

When I first moved from a rem 1100 to my 1301 I shot 300 rounds the day I got it. Got a headache and woke up the next day with a black eye. 5 months later I can shoot it all day without side effects.

I've never heard any 300blk subsonic go off but my brain wants to compare it to the average 45acp 230 grain load. Also subsonic, also plenty loud. Not saying they sound similar just that subsonic doesn't mean quiet.

I've heard of 22 rifles that can do such things, I just haven't seen any. Not calling you a liar though. I think your key word is WINDLESS, where I live that's not a real weather condition just an imaginary one. If a 40 grain bullet passes through a dusty bunny fart en route to target all sorts of hell breaks loose.

I wish I would've put my nordic components sticker on my gun instead of on my hard hat! I could've shaved off a lot of match time and it probably isn't making me any safer where it is.

40 cents a round?!?! I would never get to shoot at that price! I'm currently running a double stack 45acp for 3gun because it's what I have, just having to pay 17-20 bucks for a box of ammo has my pistol skills lagging way behind my rifle and shotgun game. Steel cased ammo is how I gotta roll.

In my experience it would a waste of ammo to attempt a 100yd zero with 22lr. I've shot 10 round groups at 50yds with some buddies smallbore match rifles that where under half inch. The same rifles with various ammo couldn't shoot a group at 100 good enough to zero with. You can shoot a 4" plate all day but no sight in worthy groups. My advice would be a 50yd zero, like warpspeed says, I always get 6 inches of drop, it's really easy to guesstimate a close holdover even without any hashes or dots in the reticle. One of my 22 rifles has one of those drop compensating turrets on the scope, the ranges aren't calibrated that well but it's pretty easy figure out how far off they are, I have my adjustments out to about 180 yards memorized.

I just did! Looking forward to it, talked to match organizer type of guy by the name of Jesse on the phone about it today and it sounds like a good time! Now all i gotta do is beat another newbie and I'll be happy.

That is one nice looking shotgun, just based on the picture I'd like to try one out. Don't think we get them here though. Any idea what the price would look like in US?

At least the browning looked like a real gun, the ljutic looks just like the guns my 4 year old draws with crayons.

I see, learn something new everyday. I thought benelli would never stray from the inertia system. Then again I recently saw a piston driven JP rifle so I guess anything is possible.