TonytheTiger

No love for freedom munitions around here? I shouldn't say anything though, don't want everyone to start buying it and making it harder to get.

+1 on the CMC triggers. Oh and don't forget your 6.5 grendel upper for maximum hunting/long range plinking versatility. Don't get me wrong, I think 223 is a useful moderate range whitetail round and I've seen it work great but for anything bigger or further away more horsepower is recommended. Hunting only demands 0.7% of my gun interest and longer range only uses 6% and the rest is all 3gun so I don't own one yet but all 6.5g guns I've seen have been impressive.

Plasma cutter. That'll get er off, I promise.

Do you have any experience with any of the more common brakes? Just curious if you could give us a comparison with something pretty mainstream to give some perspective. Not meaning to sound snobby or snarky, it's just how I end up sounding through text.

I've seen a few times where a 4" steel plate was thrown in at 90 or so yards, I was really glad to have my 1-4x on after watching some irons/red dot shooters hose 15+ rounds to make a hit. Not saying it can't be done but it really throws a lot of people for a loop.

I thought you could only change sizes on the round bullseye target, not any of the other regulation specific sized targets?

Are you gonna squirt some 140 grain love outta that tube during your load development?

Still in the hunt for a 9mm TS. I've heard CZ seems to make one big batch a year and they show up on the US market about this time of year. Does that sound about right to the people who've been stalking the CZ market longer than I?

Sure it's a saiga? Looks like a vepr to me but your pics are a bit dark.

It's the Indian not the arrow. If the OP is relatively new to the shotgun side of the sport any of the above guns will do just fine and not hold him back. Any of them can be modified down the road to suit his tastes just as soon as some experience is gained and he knows what direction he wants to go. I would hold off buying a gun till you get good enough with what you have to pinpoint exactly what on that gun is holding you back so you have an idea what you would like to see/not see on a new unit. Oh yeah, I love my 1301 but I'm one of 29 or so people still weak hand loading so my opinion might not be relevant to your reloading and shooting style.

It's pretty nice to be able to hit most targets with ammo that costs .25 per round. I had two buddies that didn't believe tula could shoot that well, I proved them wrong, one ordered the same rifle the next day and the others been pinching pennies to get one ever since.

While I understand your logic, I have to disagree with your facts. Advertised JP LMOS carrier weight is 6.25oz with key, RCA light carrier with adjustable key or standard key is advertised at 6.8oz while most mil spec carriers I'm aware of are between 9.5-10.5oz. That's all from memory so I could be wrong but I would say that the RCA is significantly lighter than mil spec and probably not noticeably heavier than the JP. Also the only difference between the standard and adjustable key is a hole drilled in the back then filled back up with two small screws so I can't see how it would differ much weight wise. That said the adjustable key seems to be an unproven system while gas blocks seem to work these days.

Well thank you sir! I'm off to the graphite store!

A lot of rifles want to be your rifle when they grow up. Any reason you went with the adjustable gas block instead of the adjustable gas key that RCA offers?

Is there a specific technique to applying the magical steel case elixir? Perhaps something as advanced as rolling a box worth of cartridges on a paper plate full of graphite or is it a good opportunity to spend some bonding time feeling up my rounds one at a time right before they blow their load?

I figured someone here would pick up on that. I'll have to try the graphite, never thought of that. Still thinking about ditching the steel stuff, even though in my gun it shoots 5 shot groups around or a little over 1-1/2 at 100 which is good enough for most of my sub-200yd practice. It does seem to get kind of erratic past 300yds though, that could just be the guy shooting.

I like where this is going, tell me more.The oiling of the mag was more of an experiment than a potential answer to my problem. That or I was just trying to pretend I was shooting a Fiat-Revelli model 14 machine gun.

I missed it too and I look on GB all the time. It would seem when looking for a gun on there you have to search for all possible name and spelling combinations or you end up missing things.

Best trigger on the market for the money IMHO. Just for fun, shoot some before and after 5 shot groups when you put it in, you'll be even more impressed with your purchase.

It's on the to-buy list, just a ways down. I think I'll start running freedomunitions ammo for now since junk ammo doesn't seem compatible with race parts.

I'm not real concerned about concussion but the size, weight and looks are attractive to me. And Carbon Arms reputation for making useful products that work as advertised has me intrigued. And for some reason I choose to live in the self destructive state of Illinois so cans are a no go.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I had no bolt lock back and that it occasionally does it with the original spring too. Run any brass cased ammo and all problems go away. Ditching the steel case stuff wouldn't be the end of the world for me but it seems strange that a rifle with those specs would be under gassed with any factory ammo. I have heard of friction issues running steel ammo in Pmags, something to do with the mags feeding too slow so just for fun I hosed a mag full of rem oil and it seemed to help for 10 whole rounds. Not that pre lubing my mags and ammo is a reasonable thing to need to do.

Decided to put a JP buffer spring in my 16" mid length non adjustable gas standard bcg rifle today and immediately started to get failures to feed with my junky bullet hosing ammo. I threw the old spring back in and it was fine. Didn't feel the buffer impulse either so I'm wondering if the stuff is loaded slow enough that the JP extra power spring is too much for it and it's short stroking. It's also happened with the original spring in 20 degree or lower temps but I don't have access to a chrono so I don't know just how inconsistent the ammo is. Makes me think when I finally get my LMOS system put together I won't be able to get it tuned to reliably run both my cheap practice ammo and decent factory stuff on the same gas setting.

Yeah but I live a hermits life and eat bugs to save money. I'm actually writing this on a computer in a house I broke into just to satisfy my gun porn/enos forum addiction.

Ooh I smell an off topic argument brewing! My No.4 takes second place to my Swiss K31 everyday of the week and twice on sundays in my bolt gun category.