SeattleDude

They went In Stock at 2.16PM PST and lasted 15 minutes

JHP Gone but CMJ are still there

go now. the just went to stock 4 min ago

it took me couple of days to snag few cases of 4000pc 115gr JHPs

exactly. MG updates stock almost daily around 2pm Pacific time. So today.... 124 JHP went to stock at 1:21PM and lasted 16 minutes.

There is got to be an option to get the pistol built, but not coated. Shoot it in Raw White. Just oil it and go. Clean it, Oil it, Store in humidity controlled safe. I know TON of peeps that shoot theirs in white. Zero issues. I am having two built and I will keep them in white for awhile. Love the way they look!

go grab some MG 124gr. They are in stock now..... probably for another 5-10 min

I like wearing shirts from cool matches that I have been able to attend. Brings up good memories and some of them are made of very good cooling fabric.

I would love to find one for a good deal. $50 off MSRP dont seem like a good deal.

1050/1100/CP2000 to process brass. By Hand or Automate it. Then depending use you XL650 to load very high quality ammo or 1050/1100 for good quality ammo. I would NOT attempt to process that much 223 on XL650. Too much work.

Nothing to worry about, you are good to go. You will also find out that some of the FC (Federal) brass is very short from factory.

Powder Valley, Midsouth Shooters Supply, Grafs

You can do that. Or when you order, order 4-6 kegs of 8lb each and in the notes ask for lot 514 if possible or lot 115. Or just email vendor before placing order and ask what lot numbers they have. Either way you will get taken care of and now we have load data on all Three lots.

Ok. I dont want to flood you guys with an ocean of data on all work up and how I got there. Unless you want to LOL. So here is the meat and potatoes. I am DONE LOL. After very careful testing and load workups I can easily say that in order to Match LOT 514 Velocity, Lot 115 needs 0.5 Grain more powder and Lot 314 needs 1.0 Grain more. Brass - New Rainier Arms Primer - CCI400 SRP Bullet - MG JHP 115 and 124gr Chrono - Labradar (Velocity Data @ 10ft for Power Factor) OAL - 1.160 Pistol - AGW Chaos 9 Major (5inch Barrel w/2 poppels) Sample Size - 10 rounds Lot 514 (fastest) 124gr MG JHP 9.7gr - V10ft - 1371, PF - 170 115gr MG JHP 10.6gr - V10ft - 1482, PF - 170.4 Lot 115 (med) 124gr MG JHP 10.2gr - V10ft - 1383, ES-16, SD-6, PF - 171.2 (I can easily drop 0.1 gr and still be safe, very very tight Standard Deviation) 115gr MG JHP 11.0gr - V10ft - 1493, ES-24, SD-7.2, PF - 171.7 Lot 314 (slowest) 124gr MG JHP 10.6gr - V10ft - 1364, PF - 169.1 115gr MG JHP 11.2gr - V10ft - 1445, PF - 166.2 (Stopped as it was too much powder in the case to go further, will most likely require 11.6gr to get to 170PF)

Just finished load work up for Lot 115 with 115gr and 124gr MG JHP I will post results of all three lots ( From Slow to Fast - 314 - 115 - 514 ) later today when I have a little bit of time.

Yup. sometimes next week I will do a load work up.

It might be a good idea to email Shooters World. I am sure they have a list of Vendors that have this lot. I know that Shooters World is completely out of Lot 514 and to my understanding Lot 314 was the most recent one. But to be sure, I would email SW Support.

It should be the other way around. Lot 314 is the Slow Lot. It took exactly 1 full grain more of Lot 314 (10.7gr) to get to same Power Factor of Lot 514 (9.7gr) with 124gr MG JHP. I just got new replacement 8lb Jugs of SWMP and they are Lot 115 . Time to work up new load again.

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I think it will be better if you simply email them as they are asking you to. I am pretty sure they will take care of you if you have some concerns. I will copy and paste the letter that Shooters World have on their website below. ----- Shooters World has found evidence of a slow lot of Major Pistol. The burn rate of lot 314 is lower than normal, and results in lower velocity and pressure, when compared to other lots. We have no reason to believe that the slower burn rate of lot 314 will cause safety concerns. Thus, we are not issuing a safety recall. In our analysis, we shot lots 314, 514 and 115 in several test loads. They include 9mm Luger, .357 Magnum, and 10mm Auto. Across all these standard calibers, we witnessed lots 514 and 115 to represent the characteristics of what we expect from Major Pistol. We are currently working with our manufacturer to determine the root cause. And we are seeking to implement a secondary test load, most sensitive to changes in ballistic performance with this burn speed. Some shooters are using Major Pistol in 9mm Major competitions. Because pressures in 9mm Major exceed both SAAMI and CIP standards, we do not publish nor condone such practices. Nevertheless, Shooters World has no control over use of propellants after the sale. We recognize that some shooters are willing to accept the risks inherent to deviations in standard loading practices, and outside recognized safe pressure levels. It is our understanding that shooters have been successful at meeting 9mm Major Power Factor velocities, loading either 115 or 124-grain projectiles, with lot 314. The tradeoff to lot 314 is that the loader must use more propellant to meet their velocity objective. The benefit is that those wishing to deviate from established and safe pressures will likely find they meet Major Power Factor at lower pressures, when using lot 314. Should this information and associated ballistic data not permit you to utilize the remains of your Major Pistol lot 314, please contact us at MajorPistol@gmail.com The lot number on bottles and jugs of Major Pistol is located along the side of the container. You’ll note a printed number series. The LAST 3 digits define the lot number. Most Respectfully, Karen, Ned and Ken Shooters World, LLC

Yup. Lot 314 is slow. Need to work up load. uses roughly 1 grain more powder than Lot 514 with 115 and 124 to make same 170pf. But its possible.

Looks like you have Lot 514 (fast lot)

I remember my first match. LOL. It was a humbling experience. I sucked. BUT it was SO MUCH FUN!

I dont understand your dilema. You said. 2011 is out.... ok kind of silly because you just dismissed best competition gun for Limited and Open divisions. You said. currently shooting a P226 Legion SAO, 9mm that i shot last year and really like the fit and feel in my hands. Recommendation - If you like your P226 in 9mm and it fits you well and you absolutely set on shooting Minor in Limited division...... KEEP SHOOTING YOUR P226 and just have fun. If you want X5 and all the cool stuff for it..... You should put a dot on it and play in Carry Optics division. If you want Shadow 2 and all the cool stuff for it..... You should Play in Production Division or with Shadow 2 CO play in Carry Optics division. Otherwise you are just buying toys to play in wrong division. But Its your money and if that is what you like and its fun..... you dont need to ask anyone's opinion.

After load development and bunch of testing with Montana Gold JHP 115gr and 124 grain bullets it was pretty clear that 314 lot is slower. I was able to get to Major PF, but it took more powder. I worked with Shooters World support on lots 514 and 314. I wanted to share with everyone that Shooters World support and communication was solid and they stand behind their product. Please go to www.shootersworldpowder.com and toward bottom of the page you will find an official Lot 314 Letter from Karen and Ken. Here is direct link to the Lot 314 Fix Letter. Click HERE for Official Letter