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    CZ SP-01 Competition Red & Blue

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    Posted

    15 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said:

     

    The gun matters a hell of a lot less than what the Dunning-Kruger crowd thinks it does.

     

     

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    It’s important to note that Dunning and Kruger never claimed to show that the unskilled think they’re better than the skilled; that’s just the way the finding is often interpreted by others.

     

    9 mm flattest shooting round ?

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    Posted

    Just now, -JCN- said:

    @HOGRIDER

     

    Very nice!!

    @-JCN- Thank you!

     

    I have been really surprised how well the 150 Syntech shoots from several 9mm pistols!  My first USPSA match what shot with that ammo as it is on the USPSA Certified Ammo list; so I figured the accuracy and quality control was probably very good.

     

    👍😉

    9 mm flattest shooting round ?

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    Posted · Edited by HOGRIDER
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    8 minutes ago, -JCN- said:


    Just think if you used a different gun! Just kidding. What gun were you shooting?


    This was shooting Syntech 150 as well. 

    Those were the settling shots from a recent RR test of my S2 Orange.

     

    One reason I liked the 150 Syntech was due to how well it performed in my STI 2011:

     

     

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    9 mm flattest shooting round ?

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, adovlad said:

    That being said, which one out of manufacturing box flattest and accurate 9 mm rd ?

    i only shot handful, and find federal 115 g Red box better out of 7 kinds i shot 

    Im not reloading either 

    Thanks everyone for prior feedback also.

    As I started out on the other end with heavier bullets, I have found the 150g Federal Syntechs to be very accurate in several pistols!

     

    https://www.federalpremium.com/handgun/syntech/syntech-action-pistol/11-AE9SJAP1.html

     

    20 yard Ransom Rest settling shots:

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    S2 Orange springs in box

    in CZ

    Posted

    19 minutes ago, adovlad said:

    And S2 orange already had comp hammer, only thing is short reach is missing

    As posted by CZ USA in the Orange's description:

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    Turning the Shadow 2 up a notch, the biggest addition on the Orange is a barrel bushing that increases slide-to-barrel fit, resulting in tighter groups. Not as obvious is a factory-tuned trigger with short reset and the hand-fitting of the slide and frame.

    I asked Angus at CZC about the short reset, and his comment was "I believe it has a form of short reset".........

     

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    NEW BLUE BULLET 9mm 147GN RN PROFILE CHANGE

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted · Edited by HOGRIDER
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    3 hours ago, TheGoatMumbler said:

    I just opened a new box of 147gn RN 9mm bullets and noticed a profile change. The new profile is longer & sleeker vs the shorter more rounded projectiles.  The new profile is at the top of this pic. I had to change my  Dillon seating die which was no biggie. But I started getting a pronounced dented ring in the nose of the finished round.  Anybody seen this and does anyone have a solution? Dillon suggested filling the hole on the die with wax which I knew wouldn't work and didn't. I'm not happy either that BB didn't bother to notify customers with these on back order that they changed the profile.

     

    Back in May after acquiring my first CZ (S2O), I contacted Blue about the availability of their latest 147g offering.  CSR told me orders were way behind; but they could round me up a sample pack of their RN and FP profiles.  And would I report back on my max OALs for the Orange:

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    What I am looking for is Max OAL for your Shadow for both bullets. That's really about it. It used to be around 1.090" on the old profile.

     

    What I found for my barrel was max OAL for the RN was 1.125" while the FP would go 1.136".  My normal loading of either would be to reduce those maxes by .015".  Not really caring for the profile of their new RN, I chose to start testing the 147g FP at 1.120" and had great results with zero functioning issues.  I also chose to test the .356" version!

     

    BTW:  I use a Redding Pro Micrometer seating die and experienced no marking issues with either profile......

     

    HTHs

     

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    S2 Orange springs in box

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    Posted

    FWIW, this was posted by a Mod at the Shadow 2 Owners' Facebook page:

     

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    According to an official answer from CZ sent to a member of us (see the screenshot as a post), the springs in the box are the following: 2 spare main spring: 11 and 13 lb. (Installed original is between 16-20 lb). 2 spare recoil springs 13 and 16 lb. In my opinion the correct answer is: 2 pcs 13 lb recoil springs are in the box with 13lb and 16lb main springs. Also there is a weaker firing pin spring. Because CZ doesn't label the springs, nobody knows the 100% correct answer.

     

    For my Orange, I simply replaced the stock springs with CZC and/or CGW aftermarket springs based on my needs.

     

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    A solution for blue tip damage in the 1050

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted · Edited by HOGRIDER

    23 minutes ago, IHAVEGAS said:

     

    What used to happen on my 1050.

    1. Primer hangs onto depriming pin and pulls back into brass.

    2. Primer is mashed by swagger , moron doesn't stop because he feels something wrong.

    3. New primer gets mashed and pulled back into priming station, blue thingy gets mangled.

     

    For what it is worth I have had one primer detonate in the press, made my right ear ring and startled me but that was it.

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    A solution for blue tip damage in the 1050

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, DownUnder said:

    On the 650 a primer is never moved back under the column of primers. If you want to use a brass tip on a 650 there is little risk of a primer being crushed. I'm not sure how the 650 is relevant to this topic, it does not use a reciprocating primer slide.

     

    On the 1050 a jammed primer can be dragged back under the column of primers and crushed between two hard surfaces if a brass tip is being used. Not a frequent event, but possible, which is likely the reason why Dillon does not supply a metal tip for the 1050. The plastic tip works, but is fragile. Put a soft guard in front of the plastic tip and it lasts forever.

     

    If anyone wants to recommend using a brass tip in the 1050 that is not the purpose of my post and I strongly discourage the idea. Anyway, make your own choices about brass tips, I'm happy with a softer option.

    @DownUnder

    Having moved from many years of operating the XL650 platform to an RL1100, I can totally relate to how the 650's rotating primer disk is very unlikely to drag a primer back under the "column of primers" as you note.

     

    You state above:

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    a jammed primer can be dragged back under the column of primers and crushed between two hard surfaces if a brass tip is being used.

     Now I'm wondering if there would be a safe way to take say, a spent primer, and demonstrate exactly how this can happen?  Having owned/operated an RL1100 for just under 2 years, I have experienced upside down, crushed, and side-ways installed primers!  But I have never had one drug back under the remaining column of primers!  And I can assure you I respect the fact that I need to keep the priming system on my press clean and well maintained as a top priority!

     

     

     

     

     

    A solution for blue tip damage in the 1050

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    3 hours ago, AHI said:

    Found out about these on Bullseye L  . They fit the 1050. I was probably the first to try them on a 1050. All the current Dillon primer magazine tubes are the same.

    You do still tighten the cap the same. It is actuary not as critical to leave it a little loose as with the blue tips. Read the directions about installing the tip . On the small primer tube I did have to "glue" the new tip using red Lock Tight. 

     

    I waited till I had loaded with this for a while before recommending this. It has fixed my last issue with priming on the1050.

    Have a set to install on my 550  but have not tried it yet. Could just move the tube from press to press. May try that next time I load .223.

    I just read the post on Bullseye L.  Very enlightening!

     

    Placed my order for both ends.  I appreciate the insight for mounting.  Have all flavors of Loctite!  ;)

     

    Thanks again!

    Understanding Shadow 2 slide milling options

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    Posted · Edited by HOGRIDER
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    20 minutes ago, PEG941 said:

    I spoke with Stuart and CZ does dot do mill work.     He directed me to CZ Custom or Cajun Gunworks. 

    PEG941:

     

    I'm a bit confused as Stuart Wong is with CZ Custom.  Is this the guy you talked with?

     

    Stuart Wong

    Ghost Products Inc

    CZ Custom Shop

    110 E. Southern

    Mesa, AZ 85210

    480-969-1311 voice

    480-969-9687 facsimile

    stuart@czcustom.com

     

    I could very well be mistaken, but I was thinking CZ Custom did the slide milling for their RDS plate system:

     

    https://czcustom.com/custom-work.html

     

    https://czcustom.com/custom-work/optic-sight-cut.html

     

    Sorry if I directed you to the wrong company.

     

     

     

     

    CZ Shadow 2 Orange Upgrades

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    Posted

    21 minutes ago, Almo said:

    CZ advertises an 8lb double action trigger.  Mine was 11 lb 6 oz!  But I changed out the following:

         extended firing pin

         8.5 lb hammer spring

         reduced power trigger spring

         solid trigger pin

    and got the trigger pull down to 5 lb 4 oz double action and 2 lb 2 oz single action.  I use Federal primer, so the hammer spring was not a problem.  In fact, I had about a dozen CCI primers.  So, I tested them and they all fired.  Can't say what would happen if I fired hundreds of CCI's. Don't underestimate the value of the solid trigger pin.  In tests on other Shadows (didn't get to do it on the Orange), I've found a 3-4 oz reduction in double action trigger pull just from the pin.

    @AlmoPretty much what I've done except I'm still using the 11# hammer spring and my DA pull is right at 6.75#.  Thanks for sharing your info.

     

    BTW:  the solid trigger pin you refer to:  Is it the CZC one like this?  https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/fire-control/cz-75-trigger-pin-new-style-all-models.html

     

    Or one like the CGW:  https://cajungunworks.com/product/floating-trigger-pin/

     

    Thanks!

    Eemann Tech Ultimate Trigger

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    Posted

    15 hours ago, slavex said:

    @HOGRIDERinteresting, I'd missed that you needed to do that to your trigger too. It's strange, one of my triggers worked fine with that spring, another didn't. Some tolerance stacking maybe? I installed another Ultimate trigger today for a buddy and had to reduce the smaller setscrew a fair bit to get it work with the trigger. It only barely sticks out, reducing the pretravel only a tiny bit, but my buddy wanted that and it's easy to do with a belt sander. But, really, I could have just left it out the fit was so good without it. I'm very impressed by that trigger to be sure. I also, for the first time, got to use the two spring tools, the TRS tool and the Sear Spring tool. I've always used slave pins on the TRS but now, I am a convert to the tool, and the sear spring tool definitely made putting that spring back in a lot easier too, not that I usually found that one too difficult, but sometimes the pin just wouldn't go through easily. Both tools are really well designed and thought out. Kudos to Paul H. for coming up with them for Dmitri. 

    @slavex:  I too have both ET Tools and they work perfectly at installing the TRS and Sear Spring!  Sad to say, but Paul Hag has left ET and is now working Athens, Greece.  I truly enjoyed his YouTube videos and considered him an asset to ET and the CZ community!

     

    After removing the entire fire control group from my Orange for a deep cleaning, I ended up putting the Ultimate Trigger back in along with a CGW RP TRS.  The return, IMO, is just a bit stronger than the ET RP TRS.  I've ordered a few CZ TRS as I still want to try the Ultimate trigger with the reddish CZ TRS.  What I have found in my particular brass Ultimate Trigger, is the area beside and behind the upper pre-travel screw is very minimal.  If I leave the upper screw out, that will allow a "thicker" TRS short leg to fit;  as long as there is enough clearance between the nose of the trigger bar and the rear of the trigger.  Probably why ET states this in their Product Description:

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    NOTE - Due to the difference in tolerances and thickness of pistol coating you may not need the Double Action Pre Travel Screw 4mm and 3mm in the CZ Shadow 2 Platform, they may not function because of little available pre travel.

    Once I get the CZ TRS spares in, I will definitely fit one to the rear of the brass Ultimate Trigger..........whatever it takes. 

     

    ;)

     

    CZ Shadow 2 Orange Upgrades

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    Posted · Edited by HOGRIDER
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    For those that are totally familiar with the optional parts that are included in the S2 Orange; CZ USA has this stated in the "description" of the Shadow 2 Orange:

     

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    Turning the Shadow 2 up a notch, the biggest addition on the Orange is a barrel bushing that increases slide-to-barrel fit, resulting in tighter groups. Not as obvious is a factory-tuned trigger with short reset and the hand-fitting of the slide and frame.

    For the "trigger with short reset" that I bolded, is this the same short reset disconnector that's included in the CZC Short Reach DA/SA kit?

     

    https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/fire-control/czc-short-da-trigger-kit.html 

     

    I don't think the Orange comes standard with the 85 Combat Style trigger as the (Orange) stock trigger has a overtravel screw included.  

     

    Again, trying to learn the specific parts that are unique to the S2 Orange.

     

    Thanks for any feedback!

     

    :)

    Eemann Tech Ultimate Trigger

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    Posted

    On 10/20/2021 at 4:03 AM, slavex said:

    I've switched out the 85 Combat triggers in all my 2s for Ultimate Triggers from Eemann. They've hit it out of the park with them, I only wish they had them in steel not just aluminum. But, then the lighter trigger return springs might not like to reset the trigger (not that it's been an issue with the 85C triggers). 

    I did have one that wasn't machined right and I had to hit it with a diamond file to get the trigger spring room to sit when on the trigger bar. I also had to shorten the pretravel screw down to get it to work with the Eemann disco, now I have basically zero pretravel and DA sets up just fine. 

    Rob:

    Thanks for your experience with the UT.  As I stated before, I was wanting to experiment with the CZ TRS while using the Ultimate trigger.  Come to find out, that on my specific trigger, I had to take a small round jeweler's file and put a notch/channel just to the right of the upper set screw hole since there was just not enough room for the thicker CZ TRS to fit between the front/nose of the trigger bar and the rear of the Ultimate Trigger.  That was the fix for me.

     

    I emailed Dmitri Eemann to let him know of my issue, and he responded: 

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    Hi, thank you for your email, i will check tomorrow and let you know... Very strange situation...

     

    I am planning on finishing the season with brass UT; but my next step over the winter is to try out the CZC Short Reach Trigger Kit with the 85C style trigger.  

     

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    If you were to buy a new mold What one?

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    1 hour ago, AHI said:

    Magma Engineering 147FN NLG.

     

    1 hour ago, AHI said:

    Should add I have this mold. It is accurate enough for NRA Precision pistol competition.

    If you wont to try before you buy. SNS uses the same mold.

    KL:

    I think AHI is offering up some very solid information!

     

    IIRC, I have some of the SNS bullets to spare............

     

    :)

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