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40 minutes ago, George16 said:
Here’s the thread where he posted the pics:
Thanks George!
I'll research this tomorrow when I have some free time.
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6 hours ago, Cuz said:
I think Sigarms posted pics with the thickness on the one he got. If I recall, folks that got the new thicker plate also got some sort of notice along with the press mentioning it.
Cuz:
Can you find me a link to Sigarm's post? You've got me thinking about what are the improvements other than thickness...........
Thanks!
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I see the #5 shellplate still has the old part number listed on Dillon's website. How can we tell if an RL1100 has the new or old shell plate?
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5 hours ago, George16 said:
If your 1100 came with the new and thicker version of the Dillon shell plate, there’s no need to buy the aftermarket ones. I’m using the stock shell plate for processing and reloading 9 and .223 without any problems at all.
George:
Received my 1100 first week of May 2020. Not sure if it has the "new and thicker" shell plate or not; but I can honestly say it's not given me any problems whatsoever!
But, I have been eyeing that great looking shell plate from FW Arms! https://fwarms.com/shop/reloading/pre-order-1-plate-for-dillon-super-1050-1100-cp2000-by-f-w-arms/
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After shooting a few matches, I have to say the ET Ultimate Trigger has been working flawlessly in my S2O. I was able to adjust the pre and over travel using the included screws. I also installed the competition trigger pin and competition TRS that was included in the kit.
At this point, and I feel this could be merely personal preference, I'm feeling like the ET TRS is causing the trigger reset to be a bit "mushy" or weak feeling. Thought I would take the stock CZ TRS that I removed from the pistol, and install it to see if I preferred a bit more "push" when returning the trigger during reset. Unfortunately, the ET Ultimate trigger doesn't have a pocket or relieved area at the top rear to allow the stock TRS short leg to get in between the back of the trigger and the front of the trigger bar. I did try to shorten the TRS short leg just a bit, but that proved fruitless.
I may end up after the season is over trying the CZC Short Reach DA/SA Trigger Kit with the 85 Combat Trigger. I see that kit does include the new style TRS.
I definitely don't want to put any fault or displeasure towards the ET Ultimate Trigger. It definitely works as advertised, and is a very good compromise between a stock full curve trigger and a full flat DA/SA style as @Tunachaser showed above.
I think my XL (trigger) finger may just need a bit of help getting my reset up to speed!
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3 minutes ago, ysrracer said:
I don't have the funnel in front of me, but I measured it last night. The widest part is .358, so is my bullet.
I grabbed this off their website. See the flat part between the red lines. That as wide as my bullet
ys:
I NOW SEE you are using the HTC funnel which I am not familiar with at all..........
https://www.photoescapeinc.com/products/9htc-ptu.html
My above references was to the standard MBF powder funnel that has this conventional shape:
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1 hour ago, ysrracer said:
I guess I could expand the case to .358 about a 1/8 inch down, then not flare the very top?
ys:
To further expand on my post above, attached is an old pic that clearly illustrates the results of the MBF powder funnel creating a "seat" for the bullet at the very top of the case.
Also, I have a few MBF funnels laying around. I grabbed the one that came with my MBF and measured the two steps. The lower step that expands the deepest into the brass is .352". The upper step measures .357".
HTHs
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1 hour ago, ysrracer said:
Yes, what it does is expand the case to .358 about a 1/4 inch down, then flare the very top. Thereby eliminating all case tension on the bullet.
Are you sure?
From my experience of using the MBF/Photo Escape/UniqueTek powder funnels, the very top step expands (.358") the top 1/8" or so of the case for providing a bullet seat. The first expansion is smaller.......
And RePete's info is right on the money!
QuoteThe flare is to aid in setting the bullet into the case. The Uniquetek unit expands a little deeper to stop the bullet from tipping, you are not expanding all the way down. When you seat the bullet, the die will remove the flare, resize the expanded portion and add the crimp, if you are using one.
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4 hours ago, Jim Watson said:
In the panicdemic it does not do much good to ask for a recipe if you don't say how many eggs - or what powder - you have or can get.
I agree!
Tell us what powder(s) and bullet weights you have to test with and then you'll get some better recipes!
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13 hours ago, fyaman43 said:
Thought I read somewhere that CZ barrel twist rates are optimized for 124gr projectiles…
Could be............
Angus shared that he ordered 100K of the Zero 125g JHPs........
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4 minutes ago, Ssanders224 said:
If you want the most accuracy out of your 9mm, go to a true JHP and never look back.
Totally agree!
Contact Roze Distribution as they usually have sample packs available of their EXCELLENT JHP and/or JHP Conical bullets!
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=RZD
Highly recommended!
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2 minutes ago, cbrussell said:
I think it might be cool to know how many rounds have been loaded on the machine since last maintenance etc...........
IMO, the RL1100 needs specific maintenance at certain times/round counts to operate smoothly. Especially the priming system.
So, that was my big draw to the Armanov unit........
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1 hour ago, cbrussell said:
On my RL1050 the chute attached with the ejector screw.
The counter mounted to the case feeder support bar. All plug and play.
cb:
Great pics and THANKS for posting!
Got a couple of questions:
1) Was the stock case ejector screw long enough to mount the chute that comes with the case counter?
2) Do you remember if the stock locator buttons and tabs would work at station #8? Or does the Armanov chute require an aftermarket tab/button?
Thanks again as I'm about to pull the lever on purchasing one of the Armanov digital counter for my RL1100.
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2 hours ago, Kenaxford said:
nothing specific to the DR920 posted yet but sill great data to look over. thank you for sharing!
Sorry............I had saw the sheet labeled DR-920, and took for granted it was populated!
IIRC, the 920 is one of Darrell's primary shooters now; so he should have plenty of data coming out in his next update. He's a great guy! You may want to contact him in a PM and see if he has an updated sheet for the 920.
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2 minutes ago, Sarge said:
It all depends on the gun. Blanket statements typically don't pan out when it comes to reloading either. My old G34 would take loads out to 1.155 in 9mm but 1.13 was by far the most accurate for the bullets, powder, etc in THAT gun.
Excellent advise!
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8 minutes ago, Trump said:
Seating depth has a HUGE affect on group size. I found that out by simple experimentation. You wana go as long as possible at all times.
Trump:
I have read this many times and can't really provide evidence to disprove it! However, in this CZ S2 Orange, I was testing OAL for the Zero 147g JHP and found an average of 1.144" as my safe zone. This was determined by reducing the max by -.015". Many loading manuals use 1.142" as a standard for the Hornady 147g XTP JHP.
It was recommended to me several years ago to try a 1.125" COAL for the Zero 147g JHP with my standard N320 powder. And I had used it successfully in 2011/1911 style pistols.
Decided to try it in the S2 Orange, and it produced the attached.
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21 hours ago, McHaggis said:
I know that reducing the OAL will increase pressure etc but does this have any effect on accuracy?
I know it does in long range rifle shooting but the ranges we normally shoot pistol I just can't see it'll have much effect if any. But I need to try something....
Why you ask? Shadow 2, 125gr coated lead conical with anything behind it, running around 125-133PF the accuracy at 8yds is nasty. 2" is typical.
Going to give up on these as they just don't shoot in this CZ. OAL is 1.093"
I've also tried 124gr Geco RN FMJ and they are much better but still average. 1" + at 8yrds with 4.1gr W231 1.15" OAL.
I've also tried ADI ASP450 & AP50N behind these but these 2 generate worse groups.
I'm going to try a faster powder (APS350) and see how that goes but based on the faster powders I doubt it will be better but it works well behomg a LRN 145gr @ 127PF
All shooting is done over a sand bag rest. Yes I'm fairly new to this CZ. Been shooting it for about 16 months.
Any experience with changing seating depth and any noticed effect on group size? Really looking for any ideas here at all.
Hag:
I recently purchased my first CZ.......a Shadow2 Orange, and it was like learning all over how to reload for 9mm! I'll have to say that right off the bat I tried some Federal Syntech 150g which produced very good accuracy; and I have also bench rested some 124g Syntech which also resulted in very good accuracy. I developed an excellent 147g Zero JHP load for matches; and have recently been playing with 147g and 135g Blue Bullets coated lead. Have also done a small test with Zero 125g JHP and JHP Conical.
I have to say that finding the OAL for MY BARREL then backing off .015" has proven to be an excellent starting point with regards to COAL!
The only powder I use is VV N320! Also, I use same headstamp (Win) brass with Federal SP Match primers. I truly think as stick mentioned above, when testing take out as many variables as possible! My initial testing is from a cheap plastic Caldwell bench rest then finalized with a Ransom Rest.
Not being familiar with your current powders in use, I would look for something close to the burn rate of N320 or N330. I honestly think the Shadow 2 series will be accurate with about any quality bullet if the other variables are correct. I always test at 20yds and load for that 132-133PF range.
I would recommend to first find a correct OAL for the bullet you want to shoot then concentrate on testing for the results that get close to that preferred power factor!
HTHs!
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28 minutes ago, slavex said:
I've been shooting CamPro 147gr flat nose in my Shadows and Shadow 2s for a decade and a half. Accuracy is phenomenal and the recoil pulse is much nicer than 124s. In a match I don't notice or care, but in practice I sure do, especially when doing dot drills and such. I'd give the 158s a try but I don't feel like starting in with a new powder when I have hundreds of pounds of Titegroup to burn through.
Right now, I've got enough of my Zero 147g JHPs loaded to finish the season. But I have been testing Blue's 147g FP along with their 135g TC and some Zero 125g JHP and Conical. I'm almost there with the 147 Blues......gonna try another .1g N320 to see if I hit the exact sweet spot.
The 135 Blues are going to need just a bit less powder based on my initial tests. And I feel confident the Zero 125s can also become an awesome match load. I just don't know if I would truly benefit by switching to a lighter bullet. Best I can figure is to load up a descent amount and shoot some drills against the timer. Hope to give it a try before winter sets in.
But I first want to give total attention to the Blue 147s because I feel they are going to be close to my JHP match load in accuracy and performance; and provide another option.
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3 hours ago, tanfoglio1911 said:
Do you think I won't have any problem using the 147gr flat? I only tried the round 147.
tan:
Been shooting my S2 Orange with 147g Zeros in Production, and decided to test a few different bullets for practice, etc. This was Blue Bullets 147FP out of my Shadow 2 Orange at 20 yds off a plastic bench rest. Had zero issues with feed/function, ejection. Once I have time for further testing, it may prove to be fine for competition.........
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35 minutes ago, Cuz said:
For those of you using the Arredondo shell stabilizer, how well is it working for you?
Cuz:
I forgot to mention that I purchased an Arredondo stabilizer initially. Problem was the dies overhead were hitting/tearing it since it sits higher than the shellplate and the dies were adjusted to touch the shellplate at full stroke. To use it, I would have had to raise those dies up high enough to clear. Not being familiar with doing that, I just decided to use the zip ties instead.
Zip ties have worked perfectly!
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15 minutes ago, AHI said:
In one of the videos HR posted . The rithm is being used. It's very suttle but it's their.
I can go every bit as fast with no spillage.
The second video I posted above shows a detailed view of the cases coming out of the powder drop with no powder spillage to speak of! And if you look closely there's just a bit of cartridge "wiggle" at station #8 which is irrelevant at this stage of the process.
Nice close-up of #chgofirefighter making ammo!
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15 minutes ago, AHI said:
Tighten the shell plate till it will not rotate. Then loosen tIll it indexes smoothly.
Now this is hard to explain. If you watch a auto drive closely it slows down on the up stroke
Right as the plate indexes. Now if you manually operate. The press using a similar rithim you
Basically can go as fast as you can pull the Handel. With No auto drive I load 900+ an hour
AHI makes an excellent point that I think most of us implement; but never really think about!
For me, once I reach full upstroke, I pause for just a split second to glance at the right side of the shell plate, look at the bullet orientation at station #7, then glance at the 10" monitor showing the powder in the case.
Point is I'm also slowing and doing a very slight stop at the top before pulling the handle again. And as AHI points out, the automated videos I've watched closely also exhibit that momentary slow/pause.
1050/RL1100 shell plate options?
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Received this from Dillon:
I really like the machining/looks of the FW Arms plate. Think I'll ask a few questions concerning that one with the manufacturer. Right now I'm thinking the aftermarket has improved the plates to the point that if a user decides to automate, then they are already covered.
Thanks for all the info!