Carmoney

I nominate you, Walt!! Pick a Sunday squad and Sam and I will jump on there with ya.

Nemo, sorry I took this nice thread in such an unpleasant direction. I'm concerned he's gonna take every single topic we try to discuss and turn it into the "Six Degrees of Cliff Walsh's Ass" game.

I run 8 in front, and one behind the gun for emergencies. I've only used the emergency moonclip once, on pskys2's stage at the Kansas Sunflower Classic last year. I was hauling ass through it, and loaded moonclips were flying everywhere (I had them hooked out on the front of the holders, which is a speed trick but not real secure). When I got to the very last array, I looked down to find no moons left in front, so I went to the one around back and finished the stage. I was pretty proud of the fact that I was able to complete a "transfer-hands" reload (I had switched to the "hang-on" method a couple months beforehand) with only a minimal loss of time. (Ol' Dave beat me on the stage, though....) It's amazing how much stuff can run through your head in a very short period of time....!

Delta Mike: Either method can be very fast. The "transfer" camp includes the two guys who are presently the fastest wheels in the world, Miculek and Lopez. But anyone who's seen Dietrich or Carden do a "hang-on" reload knows that method can be smoking fast also. Keen uses the transfer method. Walsh switched over to the hang-on method last fall, as far as I know he's stayed with it. My own experience: I used a version of the transfer reload beginning in 1987, competing mostly in pin and steel matches. Then one day in early 2005, shooting a local USPSA match in Osceola, Iowa, I was running through a stage and realized that I had just done a hang-on reload without even thinking about it. (I had just been shooting a single-stack 1911 a day or two before, and suspect that had something to do with my left hand reflexively reaching for the spare ammo. ) Anyway, right then and there I decided to try the hang-on method. Within two matches (and fairly minimal dry-practice), I was doing dramatically faster reloads than ever before. I'll never go back to that other way of doing it. I like being able to use comfy rubber Hogues and keep a good solid grip on the gun, and not have to do all that "slip-sliding-away-hand-jive" stuff every six bangs. So my own experience is very similar to yours. Keep working it, you'll just keep getting faster and faster.

Nemo, excellent job buddy!! (Speaking of Cliff, did you guys happen to see the new little slogan he's posted under his avatar recently? Something about mooning Bubber and Waltermitty from his rooftop in St. Petersburg. With all that strange spanking talk that seems to periodically emerge in Cliff's messages, along with the disturbing revelations about what he was apparently subjected to by the Tennessee hilljacks at Area 5 last year, it's obvious the guy has become heavily fixated on his own rear end....)

Jerry who? NEWS UPDATE!! I talked to Linda earlier this evening.....as of today we have 17 wheels signed up for the Blast. C'mon now, only three more and we can shoot for Nationals slots! If you're a wheelgunner and you're not signed up, jump on this one fast! As of right now there are still openings available on all shooting time-blocks, but the match is expected to sell out. Looks like the Mississippi match is going to hit the magic 20. If we can start posting several major USPSA matches a year with 20+ revolver shooters, we can show the "powers that be" that our division is truly on a roll, just like we've been telling 'em! Who else is in?

OK, Bubber, I got it. It's all good!

YES!! Summer Blast is going to be even more of a blast with Nemo there!

There it is!! Bwana's only been posting on here a mere month and a half, and we've already got his special BEnosverse slogan figured out!! (p.s. My favorite: The Dalmore)

He'll be a U. But tell him it doesn't matter. This is Revolver division. Heads-up ball.

Yeah! Looks like we have a very solid field of wheelgunners shaping up for Area 5 in Wisconsin. I'll bet we get a few more in before it's through!

OK, I see the Point Series was among the agenda topics for the BOD meeting a couple weeks back. No minutes have been posted yet.... So what's the scoop?

Hold on now Bubber.....this one caught my attention. Are you saying that a Weigand replacement blade or a Millett rear sight would place the gun in Open division in ICORE????? Certainly you're joking. If this is true, it would turn me off on ICORE for the same reason I got turned off on IDPA.

Done!! Mooney, I will bring cookies to the Summer Blast for you! See you there!

Hi Joel, Welcome aboard! More and more shooters are participating in competitive shooting with wheelguns--the revolver renaissance is truly upon us. Feel free to chime in anytime on the forum, it's a great group of guys here.

Jazzman, you don't need to worry about the cannelure or roll crimp when loading for a 625. The reason those are recommended is for high-powered magnum revolver loads that can experience the bullet moving forward under heavy recoil ("bullet pulling"). Although you might get a little bullet pull with standard pressure .45 ACP loads, it's nothing to get excited about. Pick any bullet style you like and just use a good tight taper crimp and you'll be just fine. The Lee factory crimp die in .45 ACP will be a taper crimp die. Feel free to join us over on the revolver sub-forum anytime.

Mooney, if at all possible, we really need you at the Summer Blast, we're approaching the magic 20 shooters it takes to open the door for Nationals slots in Revo division, something that has only happened once in the past!! (My concern is that the match will fill up with bottomfeeders before we get our full 20 wheelgunners on board....)

Hell, hdgun, as long as the back-up revolver is division-legal and makes chrono I certainly don't see how any significant competitive advantage could be gained with either option. Moreover, I can virtually guarantee you that nobody else shooting revolver at the match would ever dream of raising such an issue. I wouldn't worry about it one bit.

......and I know he's John Amidon and all, but when Troy McManus (also a highly experienced and influential RO trainer) was asked, he rendered the exact opposite ruling. I'm not saying anybody's right or wrong here. My point is that if these two guys can't agree on it, then how in the world are a bunch of "regular guys" supposed to administer it consistently at weekend club matches around the country? Answer: They won't. Different clubs will allow it to be shot different ways, and the scores will be sent through. And that, my friends, is a problem. (Although, I must agree with Mooney's assessment that in Revolver, it's all heads-up. The classes in our division never really come into play.)

I'll have you know, Randy, that just today I bobbed two hammers, crowned a tooth, and delivered a litter of kittens, using nothing but my Dremel tool.

Ooooh, that'd be nice! PM me with the price....

Jim, I got a few thousand from Midway a couple months ago for $61/K plus shipping. It was a special price in their flyer. If your birthday happens to be coming up (or someone else in your family), sign up with Midway and they'll give you special discounts for the week or so preceding your birthday. When my birthday arrived a couple weeks ago, I checked the price on 230-gr. Rainiers and the birthday price was again $61/K. This would be a pretty good deal if you knew somebody traveling through Columbia, MO who could pick them up for you.

Yep, DougC is the best!!

I'd be interested in a 1950 with an 8-3/8" barrel! It'll never happen, though.....

Yeah Randy, I've seen this one too. It's not a new problem--I remember installing one years ago and the screw came right down on the non-fluted part of the cylinder and locked the gun up tighter'n a dang drum. Easy fix, but it sure seems like they should be sending them with a slightly shorter screw. Now I always check to make sure the screw's not coming through too far. Just put a new Millett on my back-up 625, and it was fine, so maybe they fixed it. Boy, those Milletts on my old pin guns have taken a hell of a pounding over the years, though, and they're all holding up just fine. The Millett on the 25-2 that Sam shoots now was installed back in the late '80s. Of course, I tend to get them dialed in to the load and then leave them alone....which is easier on the product than regularly cranking them back and forth and up and down.....