Carmoney

No need to send it back in. In all likelihood, the yoke screw simply loosened up. A little blue loc-tite should always be placed on the threads to prevent this from happening. Replace the yoke screw, tighten it all the way down, and try to replicate the problem. If it seems OK, loctite it in place and you should be fine. If a tightened yoke screw still allows the yoke to slip out, replace the yoke screw. On the older S&W revolvers, the yoke screws did not employ the spring-loaded tips, but had to be hand-fit to the gun. They changed the design to eliminate another hand-fitting step.

True. And sometimes you get lucky and the floating hand feels fine and doesn't even need to be replaced. The other problem that plagued the 625-2 (Model of 1988) is that they were all tight-chambered (even more so than the current 625-8s which also exhibit this problem). Again, this is readily fixable, but you need a chamber finisher reamer to do the job. 625-2s can be made to work just fine, but I only recommend buying one if it's cheap enough to allow you to absorb the additional gunsmithing costs. For competition use, pretty much any other 625 variants are just fine. I'm not aware of any issues with 610s or 617s. Some folks have strong preferences regarding the internal lock system, the frame-mounted versus hammer-mounted firing pins, and that sort of thing. In reality, for what we do, the lock doesn't matter (and is easily disabled) and either type of firing pin system can be tuned into an excellent and reliable competition action. So other than the 625-2 issue mentioned above, you really can't go too far wrong.

Anybody want to explain why one would use up precious gunsafe space to store a bunch of frickin' ammo??? (....other than the obvious fact that ammo is on its way to becoming scarcer and more expensive than gold....)

Sounds like you have enough guns to be able to award one to each division winner and still have a couple or three left over to give away as door prizes via random drawing. And that is what you should do. This is a USPSA Area match, you need to keep it serious--real shooting performance should to be rewarded, not dumb luck.

I think the folks at Millett steered you off track. The hot set-up is the Millett .360" rear sight and a .300" blade up front. Ergo, if you're going to use a front sight which is .050" shorter you will need to use a rear sight which is (roughly) .050" shorter, which means the .312" Millett. You might consider switching to a .300" front sight instead, though, the .312" Millett has an awfully shallow notch, to my way of thinking anyway.....

Ha!!

If you have received a subpoena, and the party issuing the subpoena has effected proper service and complied with any statutory requirements relating to serving a subpoena (for example, in my state you would receive a small witness fee and mileage check), the court absolutely does indeed have jurisdiction over you. If you do not appear, you may be ordered to a show cause hearing, and ultimately could be found in contempt of court. When I issue a subpoena to a non-party witness in one of my civil cases, I'm not playing games--if you don't appear without an awfully good reason I will have your ass hauled in front of the court and let you explain to the judge why you ignored a bona fide court order. To answer the original question--if you think there is a chance that any party to the litigation could be targeting you, hire an experienced trial attorney (and not some ham 'n' eggs small town hack) to be there with you. I have a case right now where I represent a concrete contractor who was deposed as a fact witness in a slip and fall case brought by some deadbeat against a well-known restaurant chain. My client didn't think he needed a lawyer, and didn't contact his own insurance carrier when he received the subpoena. During the middle of the deposition, he realized that some of the questions coming at him seemed to be pointed pretty sharply in his direction, so he stopped and asked the lawyers whether he needed counsel and whether his testimony would come back to haunt him. They assured him that he was not a target. Several months later he was enjoined in the litigation as a third-party defendant. So now I'm on board to defend his interests, but his testimony--obtained when he had no counsel present--has already been committed to the record. So I would suggest you tread very cautiously. PM me if you have any further question on this. And--as I always say when these questions come up--are you sure you should be asking a serious legal question on a shooting forum?

Perhaps it's because we are shooting manly guns with manly sights. It also explains why we Limited shooters get all the hot revolver groupie chicks--they are turned on by iron sights. If you doubt that, just follow Bagakis around for awhile and you'll see what I mean. His cell phone never stops ringing.

HEY!! Until you have won a national championship on the North American continent, let's show some respect for Vince here!!

Special notice to Jim Norman, Singlestack, and Doug H.: Your wives are posting propaganda on this forum using your BE accounts again, remember to log off when you're done.

Larry, I don't think anybody around here gets all that uptight about a revolver-specific want ad now and then. If it's that big a deal, would it kill you to simply move the post to the Classified section?

Hey Kev, your old lady is posting under your BE forum name again.

We've discussed this before, a search may turn up some information. My own view is that the hammer block is purely a redundancy. It was added to the design to fulfill some old government specification that mandated two separate safety systems or some such horseshit, many years ago. Even with the hammer block out, the gun cannot fire without the trigger being pulled to the rear, even if you pound on the back of the hammer with a lead babbitt. The little old ladies on the S&W forum all wring their hands and talk about things like broken hammer studs, etc., but that's all nonsense. In my view, anyway. I will admit that hammer blocks generally don't cause problems, other than a little extra friction here and there, and I do leave them in carry or defensive guns. I also leave them in IDPA guns in order to meet Willard's equipment rules. But I routinely remove the hammer blocks from competition revolvers that won't be used for IDPA, and I do so with absolutely no hesitation.

Good example of how with a little effort and self-control, a middle-aged chick doesn't have to be a lard-ass.

I just read that Ruger decided to put the following instruction in the owners manual: "Always fully return the trigger to its forward position between shots." I guess we should be glad they didn't stamp it on the side of the frickin' barrel, huh? In factory configuration, it looks like maybe the laser-grip thingy might be the way to go, as opposed to trying to stuff that big old rubber Hogue grip into a front pocket. And I'm sure there will be other grip options available shortly--the actual grip frame of the gun is pretty small and would appear to lend itself to lots of options. Of course, I'm still just going off internet pics of the gun, having not yet handled one. I am intrigued that everybody seems to really like the stock trigger pull on the LCR--that would be a real plus over the typical Smith J-frame action.

That was close but I believe it was more like...... Stage 7 Counter Encounter. Simple straight forward two string stage. Gun loaded and placed in a drawer. Self start, retrieve revo and engage the three targets with two hits each freestyle. String two retrieve revo and place one hit each strong hand and switch to weak hand and place one hit on each target weakhand. Mike Carmoney wuz a blaze of action. Placed two hits on each target freesyle in just over four seconds. String two “Buzzz.. bang, bang, bang, bang bang, bang, reload, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, he then stops after his eleventh shot of a six shot string. He turns to Mike the RO and asks “What was I doing?” Mike replies “ I was sorta hoping that you would tell me.” Oh yea a shots limited stage sorta gives new meaning to the phrase, “CARMONZED” Yes, now I remember. I did a lot more whining than winning on that stage, that's for sure!!

She's 48. Nice she made a little comeback before the twilight dies away and she's just another old woman.

Hey, don't leave me out of this sucked too!......wait thats not a good thing ....nevermind.. On further inspection....you are correct....you did really suck .....actually everyone except for Mike and John really sucked...... We should be able to retrospectively toss that stage out of the match....Oh, hang on, maybe not... Hey, I vote we toss Stage 7 instead!* I can't remember what the stage instructions were--something about a drawer or cupboard maybe?--I just know Mike L. was shaking his head when I was unloading and showing clear.....not a good sign. Anyway, I did something wrong and racked up 55 or 60 seconds worth of procedurals for not following the instructions. Ouch--talk about a match killer! Unfortunately, ICORE's time-plus scoring system is extremely unforgiving to that sort of thing--bomb one stage and your whole match is screwed. Oh, well..... *I'm only kidding here, Viggen.

I really want to try the trigger. Interesting design concept. Mike - have you felt the trigger on one? Nope, I haven't seen one yet in person. If my distributor had them in stock, I'd probably go ahead and order one in, just to mess around with. We have a fairly big gun show coming up here in a couple weeks, so I'm sure I'll have a chance to handle one then.

Viggen, apparently you did not figure out that my last post (post #56) was me just kidding around. Dan was taking a friendly poke at me, and I responded in kind, that's all. I made sure to add the smiley faces in there so everybody would understand, but I guess you missed that. As for the second paragraph of your post, I think it's really unfortunate that instead of participating in this interesting and entirely civil debate, you would decide to make it personal.

They're listed on my distributor's website, but currently out of stock. With a wholesale price of $350+, I'm not as interested in this whole concept as I once was. I was really hoping they would have a dealer price less than three bills. Ah well, nothing's cheap anymore.

I guess while we're at it, I would offer one other suggestion that applies to all of us: Make sure you practice reloading on the move, including a full run. Even if you're stuck in your garage or rec room right now, don't just stand there, find a hallway or something, you never want to reinforce the habit of doing flat-footed reloads. Flat-footed reloads are time-wasters and match-killers.

Yeah, at that particular match, I would agree that the standards stage was in fact the best overall test of shooting ability, and a far better skill indicator than the overall results.......

Looking good! I would recommend that you do some practice reloads using moonclipped brass that fits the chambers fairly tightly. Always using dummy rounds that fall out easily on their own weight can be misleading, and can reinforce a reload style that may not adequately "pop" the extractor rod every time.

I take it your not a fan of the Steel Challenge or Bianchi As I've mentioned many times previously, I'm really not a huge fan of any match that allows you to set up and practice the exact stages ahead of time. It just feels unfair to me--some will be able to do it, and some won't, for a whole variety of different reasons. Eventually, it takes its toll on the integrity of the competition. I realize all of this probably sounds weird to those who remember me from back in the day when I was a very serious bowling pin shooter--I think we could all agree that pin shooting is the ultimate "get in the groove" handgun shooting game! The groove part of the F&N Standards is all about the timing. Any top-level revolver shooter can shoot one-handed, knows where his gun shoots at 50 yards, and is capable of getting good hits at any practical handgun range. Since it was always a par-time stage, if you're a good shooter the thing you really have to practice a lot is getting the timing down exactly right. And that only happens through lots of repetition. Those who get in the timing groove have a big advantage over those who don't have the opportunity. Just like those who show up several days ahead of time and shoot the exact stages on the practice bays at Steel Challenge will have a big advantage over those who can't, and the specialists who have their own Bianchi Cup practice stages set up out back are going to be the winners in that game. Boring.