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From the picture, it seems that it covers 2 of the 6 spaces between the rounds. To me that is 33% not 60% of the circumference. What am I missing? kr

About 26 minutes per shooter. A little slow. kr

Where is that in the rulebook. I must have missed it. kr

Much ado over nothing. Come to the line legal with extra mags in your range bag which you brought to the line with you. The solution to every problem is not to ignore the rules. kr

I'd like to see the video of that match and the BS calls. kr

So it is not an IDPA match? Ken Reed

Thank you Sir ! You just made my day, kr

No change. Never could. This did not change, 11 in the first mag is and has been allowed. kr

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Howdy, I have something on my personal website that might help. It is a collapsable target stand that holds steel plates of various shapes. The person I made them for wanted the down zero and down one area of the IDPA target in steel, and some round plates. Look at http://www.parmarng.org/freeidaho and on the left hand side of the second screen select Collapsable_Plate_Holder. I have shot at these targets from very close up, and since they are angled, the splatter is directed to the ground. Sounds like you wouldn't want the collapsible part, but maybe it will help. Since it is mostly for practice, y'all might consider using only the down zero and down one area too. A miss or a -3 is unacceptable either way. Just a thought, kr

Maybe I assumed too much, I thought we were trying to get cover from simulated incoming rounds. So the bad guy aligns his sights with his shoulder, or his eye? kr

So let me get this right. Some of the implications of this wording are: --you can emergency reload in the open, --that you can shoot to slide lock behind cover and then leave cover with an empty gun and reload while on the move? Is that right? Or maybe there are other rules that work in concert with this one. kr

Bare, The causality is this: 1) Someone at your club signed a contract with IDPA HQ that says that said club will follow IDPA rules to the letter. That is actually the wording in the contract. 2) That signed contract and the associated fee allow your club to run IDPA matches and use the IDPA rulebook, logos, etc. 3) The rulebook has a rule requiring everyone except newbies must be a member to shoot IDPA. 3) Hence, your club must require membership. There is no confusion on the wording. I know, I know, the what does it hurt question keeps coming up from those in denial about the facts above. The "what does it hurt" defense for not being an IDPA member or a club not requiring IDPA membership reminds me of an incident in my youth. My brother, me and a cousin snuck into an afternoon movie one summers day. We all three knew it was wrong, but when caught, I being the oldest thought we could talk ourselves out of it. I told the theatre manager, "What does it hurt. The movie is running anyway, and the seats were vacant. We even spent money at the consession stand. So see, in the long run, it helped the theatre." The theatre owner and the Police that were called, did not accept that explanation no matter how cleverly it was worded. When the Police Officer brought us home, my father did not accept that explanation either. It took most of the rest of the summer to work through the chores that were assigned to make it a learning experience. The "what does it hurt" defense doesn't work in IDPA either. My excuse is that I was 11 years old at the time. Just a thought from a sometimes mis-spent youth. kr

Cy, For me at least this is not an us vs them, but this always gets brought up. To me it wouldn't matter if they were Cowboy Action shooters, GSSF champions, or Bullseye guys. If you come to an IDPA match, shoot IDPA to the best of your ability. If you go to a GSSF match, shoot GSSF to the best of your ability. And for me, that is the deal breaker. Not even trying is completely unacceptable. Imagine a tactical ninja coming to your match and shooting one round every minute, belly crawling between shooting positions, and taking an unreasonable amount of time to complete every stage. Now imagine a dozen of these guys at your match, delaying the match 20 minutes per shooter per stage. Yeah, you will start combing the rulebook for some reason to curb this behavior. Your "can't we all just get along" mentality will be different when it is your match that is screwed up by someone not caring at all what the match is about. Ken Reed

A cover penalty is for someone trying to use cover, but didn't quite make it. It is usually a matter of inches. Someone that demonstrates that they are not going to try at all is showing disrespect to the sport, the MD, the SOs and the other shooters. Clearly unsportsmanlike conduct. A DQable offense. It seems to me that the correct thing happened. kr

In short, they don't. The club could/should loose its affilitation to IDPA if the AC were to push the point.... and they should. Each IDPA club signs a contract with HQ every year that says they will follow the rules to the letter, (the contract's words, not mine.) And of course an outlaw division is not in the rulebook. On IDPA match day, the rules should be followed.... all of em. There is no wording in the rulebook that says "it is only a club match, so ignore whatever you want." If the club wants to hold something other kind of match, and not use the IDPA term, then more power to them. kr

It is a simulated lull, just like they are simulated bad guys. kr

Both and it could also be allowed in CDP if it is .45ACP. kr

Yes, 4.2" or less, if you meet all the other criteria. kr

Other things to look for and may be issues with weight are: Bull barrel. Not allowed, has to have a bushing Full Length Dust Cover: Not allowed. Dimensions Removing or disabling a safety. kr

For some, more than others. That is where the shooter sat kr

Dave, Every sport without instant replay has the issue of the call being made in a fleeting instance, that can not be reviewed by the participant or judge. And using fault lines will not change that. The argument will only shift to "we must remove fault lines because the SO can't tell if my foot was in the right place, because he is supposed to be watching the gun. It is just a game and has no bearing on real life." Sounds familiar.... right? It is always a continum, like raising a teenager. Move the 10pm curfew to 11pm and the teenager is still 20 minutes late. It doesn't matter where the boundary is, someone will argue to remove it because blah blah blah. Remove cover calls, use fault lines. And if IDPA adopts fault lines, it will then be to remove fault lines because they aren't called consistently. If you want consistency at anything, improve your SOs. Those wanting fault lines see how well it works in other shooting sports. But what actually works better in those sports is not the specific rules, but the superior ROs and RO training/certification, and lack of tolerance for poor ROs. At least locally that seems to be the way it is. Just a thought, kr PS: Brian, I still like you, even if you are a "better shooter."

Brian, et. al.; Color me dumbfounded.... again. The target is there. The wall is here. Mentally draw a line from the center of the target to the edge of the wall. That is the line and it has been the line since 1996. It is visible during the walk through to every shooter, the SO, Scorekeeper and peanut gallery. After the beep, the shooter is standing in front of the wall when he/she is shooting. The shooter is looking at the target when they are shooting. The cover line is obvious when shooting too. No one is hiding anything from the shooter, and it isn't rocket surgery. Doing the positioning of your body, on the clock is part of the challenge of the sport. It is after all a sport about using cover to shoot targets. I don't shoot as many sanctioned matches as some of y'all, but I haven't ever been unfairly called for cover. In fact, I usually see shooters getting away with being way out from cover and not getting called. Maybe that is the issue, the shooter gets used to being way out from cover and when some SO actually calls cover correctly is surprises the shooter. Like I said in the beginning, I don't know, but I had well known excellent SOs at the World round say "He was a foot (12 inches) past cover and wanted to argue the cover call." Another thought about that. I have heard that "Washington calls cover tight." But when I was there, and from the videos it is clear that what they actually do is to call cover correctly. That surprises many shooters from out of state. So it indeed may be called inconsistently some places, but not because it is unclear where the cover lines are in a stage. It is probably an SO issue, which ultimately is an SOI and MD issue. SOs are mostly trained by working matches and a few hours in a class. The MD either fixes SO issues as they come up, or allows them to continue. I'd like to see the competency of SOs addressed. It may be the single biggest issue in IDPA, and manifests itself in dozens of ways. And none of them should be fixed by dumbing down IDPA with fault lines, or other duct tape type fixes. Fix the SO proficiency problem, and IDPA gets much better quickly, on many fronts. Thanks for listening to my rambling, kr

Steve, You make an excellent point. Ken Reed

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