I agree 100%. I bought a new edge a couple years ago, gun runs great but it seemed kind of loose for what they cost. I shoot with a bullseye shooter that bought a DVC and he though the same thing. He also has a custom 2011, I have also have CZ shadow and a M&p with an apex barrel and all 3 of the non STI guns group as good or better that both the Edge and DVC. With most of the new STI guns in the $3k area they should group like a bullseye gun. There a lot of custom builders that will build a custom 2011 for that price that are extremely accurate