Forrest Halley

I thought he was going to ask, "Do I have to shoot a revolver?" with that title.

You are correct in your assessment of the new scoring Rowdy. It's fat guy scoring at a second per point. Your pulled shot being a down three is a bit steep as you're basically saying there's a procedural per shot for everything out of the -1. A reversal of the signs is in order. It's a time plus match so have the penalties all be time added. A half second bonus is not hard to believe for making critical hits, but you're honestly just paying people to shoot perfectly. What's the point of that? As far as the sliding scale of scoring goes, that makes it into a computer ideal proposition for data entry and scoring and there's now room for error and extreme sandbagging.

Have only seen this in .40. Tell us more...

The investment of ammunition that the shooter is making shooting a second time is not something to be taken lightly. There is another match fee being paid there too. I'm cool with the second run counting for ranking, but the money and prize table walk goes to the fastest first gun in a particular category. I'd also like to see the crossover between an eight and a six as it changes the plan just a little. No problem with the second run, but it should have enough difference between platforms that the competitor is solving the problem all over again and not just making a perfection run of the course. I have zero interest in the extra resets for a six/six or eight/eight run.

Because less experienced semi shooters don't look like monkeys pulling a dead trigger on a locked back pistol or trying to clear malfunctions or forgetting to rack the slide after a reload....????Sorry if my comment came off as offensive. With as few even turn out to shoot major matches, is there any wonder why little thought is even given to revo? There are a few good revo shooters I've seen, like Greg K, but they're far and few. It's seems more like a novelty division.Not offended in the least. Just stating that terrible shooters aren't platform induced nor specific. I will say that bad revolver shooters have one advantage over bad semi shooters...they run out of ammunition sooner and are less likely to "go to war with the stage." You know where that guy just has to blow all 31 rounds at the targets because he can. Oh how I want to slap that guy...on second thought... "Everybody hold on...so and so just volunteered to paste ALL the targets. Go on get to it! Chop! Chop!"?

Norfolk County Rifle Range has been doing an idpa basic that was also the Dixie Wheelgunners match during the week. Rivanna rifle and pistol club ran an ICORE match out in Charlottesville for a while but interest died a few years back.

A brand new technique...throwing the moon at the gun like a fastball... eliminate gravity completely!!!?

It's not about money for me. I load it or give it away to friends.

So what? I killed my first deer with a handgun using a 9mm. I'll take the 929 hunting some time. Good luck with your five inch barrel in some states...not legal.

Does this mean you'll be shooting the NC Section with moonclips this year?Fair Warning: Ask to pick your brass up before you shoot after the squad is finished or don't come looking for it. I'm not picking it up for you and handing it back like I did last year after I saw you leaving it lie on all the other stages. Thanks!? I'm willing to bet you've got me confused with another revo shooter, I haven't had the pleasure of shooting a match in NC. But it was nice of you to pick up their brass for them! Yes apparently I do. Please accept my apologies. Shooter using an Alaskan with LC in speedloaders had the audacity to ask us for his brass back after we picked it up. We get to the next stage as staff helping out a log jammed stage and there's Long Colt laying all over. So if he was too lazy to ask to pick it up, he shouldn't have expected it back. I gave it back out of respect for a fellow revolver shooter on my stage. After I saw it on the ground at the next stage...it was good he was nowhere to be found.

Does this mean you'll be shooting the NC Section with moonclips this year? Fair Warning: Ask to pick your brass up before you shoot after the squad is finished or don't come looking for it. I'm not picking it up for you and handing it back like I did last year after I saw you leaving it lie on all the other stages. Thanks!?

Your opinion. It was a part of the division that caused greater complexity and risk vs reward math. Just because you didn't like it...doesn't mean it needed fixing. With standing reloads and Revolver shooters that didn't whine we once had a 90% revo squad that flew through stages so quickly compared to open and limited squads. Going to eight rounds made it into a more single stackesque game. So how many folks went over to single stack as opposed to going out an buying an eight shot? No consideration was given to the nature of the game changing because the folks that wanted the change so badly already had eight shots(Carmoney and friends) or were already eight shot programmed(Leatham and friends). We can't blame Jerry because he knew his days were over and just walked away. The rest of us didn't have 8 shots. I had .38's, .357's, .40's, 10mm's, and .45's ALL IN SIX SHOT. I am not whining about buying new equipment as I enjoy my 929's, but I think it was IGNORANT and FOOLISH to have made it a NECESSARY EVIL which killed the six shot minor. No MD ever has cared to do a six shot neutral COF so congratulations on writing the six shot revolver into the USPSA history books. I know a guy who made GM with six shot minor. There's no way to do that now. The only real challenge remaining is the trigger pull as opposed to a semi. Your revolver will not show you the love like an M&P9 if you pull it out and just go to a match without any practice after a few months. I am never going to let people forget who ruined Revolver. Same lines as when you pushed for the change. Those who oppose it are whiners they don't understand how this is a good thing...there will be a great surge in participation... There sure wasn't any surge in participation where I shoot. The Great Leap Forward!???

You ever heard of a guy named Rob Leatham? He had this theory that allowing other calibers into CDP would kill the .45. It kills me to say this,but he's right. Just look at what they did to Revolver in USPSA. You'd end up with the G35 or M&P 40Pro or XDm 40 being the hot pistol for CDP. Never fear though, this won't happen. Joyce won't sell Bill out like that...

Because less experienced semi shooters don't look like monkeys pulling a dead trigger on a locked back pistol or trying to clear malfunctions or forgetting to rack the slide after a reload....????

The game changed when you went from six to eight. It pushed some people out. Accept that fact. It wasn't all roses going to eight. I seem to know more former revolver shooters than newer. The only .45 revolver rounds I load these days are .45 CS for CAS. As far as allowances for revolver division, I'm for anything that increases participation, but I can do the math and see that standing reloads were a fun part of the division that are a killer of six shooters. I think a scoring allowance should have been made for major PF to need only one A hit for full target points to keep up with the eight. You'd have seen that the reloads would have been a wash. Of course the Classifier stages would still be a mess, but you wouldn't have written the six into the history books.

So how many rounds can I fit in an SX3 with a 32" barrel? 16???

I just discovered four shot caddies. They're amazing and reliable. I had been using six shot caddies. I had good occasion to laugh at folks loading two and four last weekend. We had a 43 round shotgun string. One guy dropped all his shells jumping off a prop well away from the shotgun. Another guy had load two fumble two going on. A third guy was howling like a scalded cat when his gun burned him at every reload. I think I'll stick to the weakhand reloads. Grab a couple and stuff a couple. I'm not Daniel Horner, but I don't drop shells much.

So a twelve round tube sticking past is a bad thing, but a chest full of shotgun shells in a vest isn't aesthetically hideous?

I like the 12 round tube. I'm in the load immediately camp. Seems to be smarter than remounting the gun. I'd rather just start fully tube loaded. I also run a 10 round tube. I like the evenness on my 26" barrel. If I could find a 30" barrel for my SBE, I'd go for even more rounds in the magazine.

Does anyone have experience with the Troy micro flip ups?

Make ESR/Revolver division open to eight shot minor revolvers and completely kill the 625, 646, and 610. Sounds like a great idea to me! Looks like the brain trust that ruined Revo in USPSA is now out to ruin idpa too. ? Dumb idea. Total equipment killing asteroid. Instead, allow them to load eight and make it a procedural to shoot more than six before a reload. OR Create another revolver division for the eight CSR/CDR and bring back the SSR and ESR. That is the most fair way to do it. It doesn't matter really as the number of revolver shooters at a match damn near ensures everyone is a winner.

Which Ghost trigger do you have?What Gen is your G20? Gen 3 29. I use the 4# striker spring and the heavier trigger spring. What ever the disconnect from about a year and a half ago is...is what I use.The bulge sucks whatever the reason why. The 1911 has much better support and less bulge and better chamber dimensions. I don't think they fixed anything. I believe the chambers are left sloppy for reliability. Any agency is going to use the cases likely just once so why sacrifice reliability to appease the smallest sliver of the market?

I run the ghost and ghost spring kit in my 10mm. I think the rolling trigger break is where it's at also. The increased trigger spring and the lighter striker spring have given me no issues. 2&change# pull. Where I'd spend money would be in a fully supported barrel so that I could turn the volume up.

Magpul is double dipping here. Contractor market and military market drives them. They are really interested in reliability and performance rather than the extra round. That Glock 22 round .40 magazine has similar dimensions to a subgun magazine.

Will they let me shoot the stages with twin single action revolvers?