vluc

detlef, i also prefer right to left, my reference was to how a pistol will recoil inwards when shot one handed...hence it is "easier" to let the gun do part of the work as it is moving in a direction anyway.

Quote: from IPSC CHIK1 on 1:18 am on Nov. 25, 2002 (sigh) men. you can't handle what you have and you want more. sheesh! Sharon Anne Everything in excess...moderation is for monks (from heinlein)

Austn, you don't tell us if you are a right or left handed shooter. Physics tells us which way the gun responds after it is shot, which is why many are told, if right handed to shoot right to left due to the natural recoil of the pistol, and lefties, shoot left to right.

Here's teh thread I was referring to... http://www.brianenos.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...00&start=10

in production they are a no-go. i've only seen them used in limited and open.

124 grain MG gives me push in the G34 and flip in the SIG 226 (or is it vice versa...each is different). So much may also be dependant on the tool used.

Flex, when will the results hit USPSA...have not seen the classifier there yet??

SIF, i use the 34...wonderful pistol. Everything flex said is right on. Good choice.

Tom's off to school with limited shooting right now, but as he is one of my shooting partners, he has had no burples with the magazines over the last season.

At the Tri-State Championship there was a stage where a car made of wood was hard cover with a swinger behind it. i put two into the paper but according to the RO, it went through the hard cover first...that's where the 'grease mark" mention came from. When you see a target hole with the grease and a target without...hard to not agree.

oooh...grease marks is how it was explained to me. The bullet that passes thru the no shoot first will have it's "dirt" removed so the hole in the second target will show "clean".

Here is what might be a prime example. Production shooter, shot a COF on Sunday that had you engaging 8 targets through 4 ports...all adjacent to one another. You started in the 2nd or 3rd bay...your choice. Each port/opening had two targets in it...no more than 3 feet away, yet no other targets could be engaged due to the distance, etc. One head shot, all other targets with varying degrees of hard cover. When i first looked at the stage, i planned on starting in the 2nd port from the left...engage those two, get the first port as one target was a head shot, reload, then go on to three and four. Then I watched an A class shooter run it.....(I'm not one, btw!). He started in port 3, stepped back, engaged one target in that port, swung to port 4, took those 2, then on the way back to 2 and 1, took the second target in port three. his final two were shot the way i started the others. Now when i talked with him after his run, he gave the explanation of the number of steps to take to do it my way versus his...he saved a few. Until that point, i never would have thought of that...and that may be why a lot of us 1-2 year players don't work on that as it is outside of our thought process until we see someone do it. I occasionally get an epiphany on a walk through where something form a similar type stage forces its way into my consciousness. For me, shooting production, I go for the hits. Now I "won" that stage over the other production shooters, shot all A's...yet that "A" class shooter got mostly Alpha-Charlies and kicked some butt. So now i have some new things to try to think about...along with everything else, when I go to the line!!

In the end...it is all about points per second. We have to know if the points we get justify the time it takes to get them. I go for the A's and worry about them versus time. I'll pass up 2 quick shots on a mover to take the 2 alphas at the head...more confidence in that ability. But as BE as said... " At some point you will figure out that in order to win major competitions, you have to shoot points. It doesn't matter where the targets are or what they look like, you still have to shoot points. LET YOUR POINTS DICTATE YOUR TIME. In time, you should know that you can shoot A's as fast as hits, on most targets. Where it's OK to drop a few points is only on targets where shooting the A box poses too big of risk factor. A high hit factor is just a high hit factor; a low hit factor is just a low hit factor. Don't make them different. Shoot points all the time, if you want to win."

Quote: from Flexmoney on 6:36 pm on Nov. 1, 2002 Darth, YOU da man! Me...I might take this approach... not this... (I happen to be surrounded by these cheater guns) Gack! [thread drift] Well i don't plan to become a range nazi by any means, but didn't we just have another thread that addressed rules and applications? Do we let a 180 break go by because we "know" the shooter is a good guy...or do we now make the local range determination that this is okay, let the person shoot and move up in class, then go to a big match and get DQ'd because of something that was preventable? Not that this alone will make the difference...unless you are the person that gets beat by a few tenths of a second! Sigh, the harsh reality of flipping over stones is that you may not like what you find...and this from a certified stone flipper!

So as an RO i have to check each beretta shooter that comes to the line? Oohh...going to make more than a few beretta shooters angry, but the rules are the rules....best to get them before they shoot than to have them compete and get DQ'd. So how many of you guys have one?

Quote: from Flexmoney on 9:30 pm on Oct. 19, 2002 People like good stages and well run matches. No attitude. We are all shooters. There it is....Flex nailed it...a perfect double! If the folks where you are are shooters, then it will make no difference.

I've played with it, and shoot IDPA with some folks - husband and wife - who both use them. The feel of a Glock with a SIG trigger...I like it, may get one at some point, but it's not high on the list right now. Maybe you should look into a SIG-Sauer?

Numerous and confusing threads...so I called Glock...just spoke with Jackie. While the date of mfg on my 34 was in that affected time frame, they will continue to stand by the pistol should something happen down the road. I've looked it over, no issues with the guide rails on the receiver, so I see no reason to send it in. The issue appears to be with a modification to the length of the guide rails. Hehehe...she indicated that the testers fired about 4K rounds through a test glock with only 3 rails and it ran fine the whole time. I've had my 34 since May of this year and have put far more than that through it with no issues...and 4 rails to boot! (Edited by vluc at 2:38 pm on Oct. 16, 2002)

SIGLady, guess you'll have to make room on the shelf for Musashi as well!

Have yet to see green steel, so go with the green fiber optic or green fluoro paint. Bright Sight's makes a decent sight paint in both regular and fluoro...

Steve, when I look back on it, i should have tried shooting it sideways through the barrel like I was fooling with. Would have been interesting...

Limited goes and L10 is forced to use all speed gear equipment. If they want to dress like production they should shoot production. Too bad if your waist size won't let you put mags in front. And shooters should declare a division each year...shooting in any other would just be for fun...oops, may have gone too far on that one.

...with real whipped creme, homemade, not that fake stuff...and coffee, some fresh ground coffee would be nice too...

You may want to follow up with handgunner here at the forum. he recently did a G17 conversion from 9x19 to 9x21, limited to open.

IIRC, Hi-Viz has them availalbe. look at Gunbrokers or auction arms, they usually have them for sale.