dmshozer1

Even the scores are a challenge to read unless you lay on your side to read them.

Did you forget about the $250 you paid for a good time? Whether it's a $25.00 match or $250.00 or an RO it's STILL the same , EVERYBODY shoots the same stages. ? ? Just like I tell the complainers that race at my track , "The guy that beat you , rode the same track you did , if you want to beat him , maybe you should practice more " This is not directed at ANYBODY , just a general "I don't understand why " ? My scores SUCKED , BTW , mag problems with pistol and rifle that never happened before Because a $250 buy in major match shouldn't have a pure dumb luck make it or break it stage. The guys that smoked it had a great run sure, but I bet none of them could repeat the performance with 10 trys.... When things like the overall winner and division winners are decided on a stage like that, you know it is a problem from a stage designers perspective. Let me put it this way, in my humble opinion, if 70+% of the shooters in the match can't clean an array in a reasonable time every time they shoot it then it doesn't belong in a major match. Well said!

Larry said above: "Prizes will be distributed after the awards ceremony on Saturday night by order of finish in each division. The awards will be at Heritage Hall...The doors open at 6:30 pm and the meal starts at 7:00 pm, awards will start at approximately 8:00 pm..." Missed it, thanks.

Is the prize table going to happen at the range after shooting or at the awards banquet?

Email said Thursday regestration by special circumstance, you can also register at shooter meeting at hotel the night before I believe. Yeah I saw that, however I was hoping that having to work the beat and then drive 20+ hours to get their on Thursday morning to register and then shoot Thursday afternoon was a special circumstance. Im sure you will be fine, maybe she hasn't got to your email yet. How long ago did you send it? Week and a half For those of you who were at Rockcastle knows that Linda's mom passed away on 22 August. She has been dealing with all the circumstances surrounding that unfortunate incident. How about sending me an email at azone40@comcast.net and I will forward it to her. She is getting caught up on all the back emails while she was out. The issue with not being at shooters meeting is the amount of information that will be put out is important to the conduct of the range, safety and such. This is why it is mandatory for all shooters with very few exceptions. Prizes will be distributed after the awards ceremony on Saturday night by order of finish in each division. The awards will be at Heritage Hall with a very nice catered dinner (3 meat choice, cicken, beef and fish). Nice in that if you wear blue jeans and a t-shirt you will feel extremely under dressed. I suggest a nice collared shirt! hint! The doors open at 6:30 pm and the meal starts at 7:00 pm, awards will start at approximately 8:00 pm depending how fast we get folks served. There will also be a cash bar at the awards banquet. Hope this helps. Starting Tuesday evening Sept 11 I will be working on the range with limited cell/email until late in the evening. I will try to ost updates as I can. Larry Where is the Heritage Hall?

Thanks Larry

Are we paying for this dinner?

Perfect example of how a turned plate can cost you big time. If you hit it enough to turn it, more than likely you had enough pellets on it to knock it off of a properly designed stand.

PERFECT!! Thanks

I have shot with and talked to both of you in the past years. When I found out you had teamed up to run a match, I knew I would enter it and it would be as you described in your post. A very doable and fun event! When I put on a match, questions were always answered to the best of my ability. Most of my questions were answered not by either of you but people that have different opinions. This is a forum. I expect that. Larry answered my question about slugs at 125 yds. I will have to shoot at that distance to see if my gun is capable of that. good to know that information. One more Question. Is a 125 yd. slug shot doable?

If you don't think it is important to know the distance to targets then why are you sorry that you can,t practice those 450 yd. shots that you know you are going to be have to make at the FNH match? I think it was mid-way through "People should focus on shooting at a variety of different ranges and positions...." Ideally, people know their ballistics anywhere from 0-500 yards if they have the facility for that. If you do, knowing the actual ranges for the match is a moot point since you'll know all your bullet drops. If you don't have the facility for that, knowing the actual ranges is still a moot point because you can't practice them anyways. I know my handgun to 50y, slugs to 100y and rifle to 300y. Beyond that with the rifle and I have to rely on ballistic tables or on-the-fly corrections. Having said that, it doesn't mean I will make these shots in the match After huffing and puffing through a stage, trying to make even a 200y rifle shot can be tricky. I agree with your post but, now that Larry has mentioned 125 yd. slug targets, I would bet that the smart shooter would practice those shots before going to the match. Rifle, I don't care about distance. Because of the accuracy problems with slugs, I like at least a good guess on distance and size of the target. I have no idea where to hold on a 125 yd target with my shotgun. Now I can find out before the match. That is the purpose of my original question. Knowing is half the battle!!! Thank you!! Great videos as usual!

If you don't think it is important to know the distance to targets then why are you sorry that you can,t practice those 450 yd. shots that you know you are going to be have to make at the FNH match? I think it was mid-way through "People should focus on shooting at a variety of different ranges and positions...." Ideally, people know their ballistics anywhere from 0-500 yards if they have the facility for that. If you do, knowing the actual ranges for the match is a moot point since you'll know all your bullet drops. If you don't have the facility for that, knowing the actual ranges is still a moot point because you can't practice them anyways. I know my handgun to 50y, slugs to 100y and rifle to 300y. Beyond that with the rifle and I have to rely on ballistic tables or on-the-fly corrections. Having said that, it doesn't mean I will make these shots in the match After huffing and puffing through a stage, trying to make even a 200y rifle shot can be tricky. I agree with your post but, now that Larry has mentioned 125 yd. slug targets, I would bet that the smart shooter would practice those shots before going to the match. Rifle, I don't care about distance. Because of the accuracy problems with slugs, I like at least a good guess on distance and size of the target. I have no idea where to hold on a 125 yd target with my shotgun. Now I can find out before the match. That is the purpose of my original question.

If you don't think it is important to know the distance to targets then why are you sorry that you can,t practice those 450 yd. shots that you know you are going to be have to make at the FNH match?

Yes that's a cool answer but when you are paying big bucks to travel to and enter big matches its nice to get decent information on what you have to shoot at. I have run good size matches and have always given accurate information to any question a shooter asks. To me that's what most people call courtesy. OK so here you go, know your shot pattern from 10 yards to 22 yards, know you rifle dope from 3 feet to 450 yards, know how much your handgun bullet drops from 3 feet to 50 yards and of course the big question is the slugs, know your drop from 25 yards to 125 yards. What happened to the day of knowing all of this before you go to any match. I guess we have become accustom to having everything provided for us it takes the work out of it. Oh yea I guess someone did that for you! Sorry, couldn't help myself on that one, I'm a small business owner. To be quite honest, until I am setting the stages up, I can only give you approximate. I set stages up by feel and what I think is doable for everyone. So until it is actually on the ground, exact distances will not be known. Sorry I could not tell you the exact distances. You can hate me but I will not lock myself in for someone to have a complaint later. Larry Thanks Larry, At least I now have an idea of what to practice.

Yes that's a cool answer but when you are paying big bucks to travel to and enter big matches its nice to get decent information on what you have to shoot at. I have run good size matches and have always given accurate information to any question a shooter asks. To me that's what most people call courtesy.

None turning plate with tab is a great design. No more 90 degree plates That design has been around for at least the past seventeen years that I have been shooting!!!! As per my other posts, you pay big money to shoot these matches, you should be shooting at correctly made plate stands so you don't have to shoot at turning plates! You hit them hard enough to turn them. That is a solid hit in my book. Does not matter if it's a pistol, rifle or shotgun. It's a very cheap easy fix on any plate stand I have ever seen. .

I don't get it. I installed a Williams adjustable peep sight on my SG. I take out the small aperture to shoot bird shot. I put the small aperture back in to shoot slugs. I was told I could not do that because it was reconfiguring the gun and would be put in open class. Where is that different than using a fold up or down leaf sight that a lot of shooters use. That is reconfiguring your gun. Please don't tell me it is because you are taking it off and then putting it back on. You are reconfiguring your gun every time you change chokes!!

Dave, My experience with slug targets and distance is "smaller than I want, and about 20 yards too far" That is the exact reason I am asking Dan! I am working on a better aiming system on my SG.

Is the match going to happen? It has been canceled in past years. I have a motel and a five hour drive so I need to know!!!

Answer to #1 - Whatever type of sling you would like to use. Answer to #2 - Unslinging an empty weapon as required in the course of fire will NOT result in a match DQ for violation of the 180 degree rule. How far away are the slug targets and what will they be? Thanks

Sure you will need them and if a gun requires it to be slung at the start, you must have it on at the start, after that you can use it or safely ground it. Hope that answers the sling question. Larry, How far and what is the size of the shotgun targets? Thanks Sorry, I meant to ask about slugs.

Sure you will need them and if a gun requires it to be slung at the start, you must have it on at the start, after that you can use it or safely ground it. Hope that answers the sling question. Larry, How far and what is the size of the shotgun targets? Thanks

Sounds like any big match I have ever attended! Just kidding! After thinking about it, maybe not kidding!

Thank you Kurt for enforcing my post that instead of shooting the stand etc. to make a plate fall, why not fix the problem with a simple strip of steel on the front of the plate stand. Anyone who has shot at pistol matches in the last 20 years has seen these stands as standard procedure. A very cheap easy fix on most any stand I have ever seen.

This scope is Second Focal Plain. so the reticle changes in size as the scope zooms. Foc instance the 400 yard bar at 6X is 5.6 MOA down If we set the scope to 3X the 400 yard Bar would only be 2.8 MOA down I did not have much time at the range yesterday, I only did about 1/2 what I wanted to do. But I am 90% sold on this scope , my 10% reservation is that I like the old EBR reticle in the 1-4 FFP so much more. with the reticle getting smaller in the SFP 1-6 I fined the 500 and 600 bar not as fast to fined. The thing that balances that is that it will not cover as much of the target area as the old reticle. The load I used past 300 yards was 69gr Sierra with 24.5 Varget at 2,750FPS = I will bump up my load a bit, but having the bullets hit just under the bar at 500 yards was not distracting at all. It was cool to see the marks on the steel with -Lots- of feed-back through the scope. If a shooter spends the Dime to get a great upper like the JP this scope is a perfect match. Funny how my sight in groups shrunk after mounting this. I forgot, when I was doing my sight-in at 200 yards on paper, after the third shot I could see my group develop. the other thing that was kinda cool was doing a bore sighting at home when I mounted the scope and going strait to a 160 target for my first shot hitting the center of a steel gong. I never had bore sighting get so close. For some reason I was thinking it was a FFP scope. Finding the holds shouldn't be too hard. Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk 2 If the reticle changes when going from 1 to 6 it is a FFP scope.