MemphisMechanic

Also note, ARy, that a Manson and Chymler reamer failed to cut my polygonally rifled Stock 3 barrel. Wouldn't even reach the lands before the pilot stopped in the barrel. When you get your barrel back note how much more loosely your old short ammo will fit, too. In addition to lengthening the throat to load longer ammo, Bevin's reamer definitely cleaned up my insanely tight chamber. I sent a pair of dummies (135 RN and 150gr SWC) loaded to 1.160" and they both spin effortlessly now. I planned to load both to 1.125 through 1.150 - whatever proves most accurate - so I have plenty of cushion.

Damn. I think having a 10" barreled AR pistol down my pants would weigh less than a Stock 3.

I'd add their sear spring and trigger spring to your cart whenever the firing pin is available for order. Actually I'd add a couple of sear springs. Anytime you detail strip the gun and forget to snap the spring leg back down onto the safety, you'll bend it when you install the slide. It'll happen sooner or later.

It's only 1/8th of a pound difference? Hmm. There heavy though, probably due to the aforementioned steel chassis in the frame. The Glock 19 is my benchmark for a double stack carry gun: 1.25 lbs / 20 oz - Glock 19 1.75 lbs / 28 oz - EAA plasticky compact 1.875lbs/ 30 oz - EAA steel compact 1.65lbs / 27.5oz- CZ P-07

Search for 'firing pin block' inside the EAA/Tanfo forum and you'd get this as the second result:

I looked that up. Then looked up your location. South Africa. The US laws result in a company called EAA importing Tanfos under the brand name "Witness" and we don't have the same selection. Looks like, if you want a shootable easily-carried compact in a lighter polymer frame, the only choice is what's known as the EAA Witness Compact. 14+1 in 9mm (because .40 is wrong) with a 3.6" barrel. Available in a variety of frame colors and not nearly as sexy as the metal guns that we shoot in IPSC and USPSA: But they're cheap enough that I may pick one up for ~$400 and play with it's internals a bit. An 8 / 4 lb trigger with good heavy reliable springs in a glass-smooth polished trigger could make a nice "carry" sister to the Stock 2/3/Lim Pro guns with a similar grip contour and trigger reach / pull length. I'm a big believer in carrying something that allows all the hours of dryfire and practice I spend with a competition gun to cross over as much as possible... and that backstrap contour and grip and trigger reach look a lot like my Stock 3's.

The noise or tactile nature of reset - wanting something that goes ClickPow! - is something I've never understood. Dryfire and live fire teach you where your reset point is on plastic guns, and you automatically come off of it that far plus some when shooting in USPSA. In fast shooting you're not riding the reset. You're definitely not feeling the click when the timer is running. With a reworked Tanfo I find it to be even less of a factor. The trigger stops moving at the reset point (lack of pre travel from Bolo). How much does the PD trigger spring help? I personally would except the PD sear spring and trigger spring to reduce pull weight around a pound. Perhaps even less... but every little bit of polishing and spring reduction adds up.

Many of us who shoot USPSA also carry a gun at times (or all the time) in our daily lives. Do you carry a Witness/Tanfo? If so, what is it and have you done anything to it? I have to admit that I'd probably consider buying one of the cheaper Poly-framed Witness models in 9mm if the ergonomics and internals were equivalent to the Stock 2/3 stuff. Has anyone else considered this? Anyone doing it? A lighter version of my competition gun with similar controls and such would be a good winter carry at least, when a double-stack is easy to conceal.

"What are you talking about? This is the new 'rough textured' Xtreme Stubby Safety off of the new Stock 4! Totally Production legal."

You very, very wrong. Have you used one of these in reality? Gauging and boxing 500 rounds of 9mm is about three times faster. The biggest advantage is boxing up the ammo after gauging.

A perfect analogy. Expecting opposition to your efforts and feeling nothing.

Based my load (3.0gr and a 150gr SWC) on the data coming from this forum with the chronograph results of others. Seach the 9mm forum for "prima V" with the advanced search, you will several people have posted 124 and 147 recipes with chronograph data.

I'm at a loss how you're not able to feel the lack of a primer, to be honest. That's the only thing you feel when your handle is stopping on it's upstroke. Definitely take the primer system apart and clean and inspect it before you focus on anything else.

I'd check with Red Hill Tactical to see if they can make one for you. They seem to focus strongly on USPSA oriented models and brands, and their gear is quality.

The Tanfo frame is bigger... but so is the mag body. And I agree that the CZ has a bit better flaring of the magwell - I find Shadows slightly easier to load. Both guns are among the harder Production guns to load. Glock is the easiest that I've personally competed with, then M&P. I personally prefer the Tanfoglio over the CZ because the CZ grip is suited to smaller hands than mine. I don't feel there's all that much difference, otherwise. Oh, and Tanfoglios don't eat slide stops or trigger springs.

And to think, rather than trying to work your way down to the perfect 4lb DA pull that will light ______ brand primers, you could have quit at a smooth 6 pounds and spent all those extra hours practicing. There are some big advantages to shooting a Tanfo in Production, in my opinion. The one big drawback is the ability to tinker to a degree well beyond what one can do with a Glock, for example. I continually have to remind myself "no, you don't need to play with _____ in this gun. The trigger is good enough to win matches. You're done. Go to the range and get better at operating it!"

I found I had plenty of yellow paint remaining on the 14 when I finished polishing it inside and out. I didn't go nuts on the spring - just knocked any buildup of paint off and got it down to bare metal then smoothed it a bit. I did most of my polishing on the hammer strut and in the hole instead. (Plus I have small ziplock bags labeled "13 Hammer" and "14 hammer" in the box I keep all the factory Tanfo parts in. Obviously one stays empty.)

Both Channels definitely need done. Along with the hammer spring on the inside and outside of the coils. The paint PD uses to color code them is helpful, but also produces noticeable drag unless it's removed from these spots.

Q tip and polishing compound in a drill Or sandpaper rolled up and chucked in it.

Do you have smaller hands or shorter fingers? A personal favorite about the Tanfo line is the way I can't help but park my thumb on top of the safety and hold it down while I shoot the gun. It's literally designed for my thumbs personally. At some point I want to put wide Lim Pro safeties on my Stock 3, which came with the regular width Ambi. Maybe someone will trade.

Go ahead and put the factory bar in and see what happens. It's only one pin to swap it out. But the trigger should pivot pretty effortlessly on the pin connecting it to the trigger bar, yeah.

If you happen to be running the Bayou 150gr SWC coated bullet, they actually weigh an average of 147.5 on my scale.

Since, to be frank, you threw money away on the Xtreme trigger bar, polish the factory one up, install it, and see if anything changes. If that fixes it, return the Xtreme bar (you are only paying for a coating on it that doesn't do anything unless you're a foreign shooter under "no polishing" rules) and rock on with the factory one. If not, then something is installed wrong. Compare the two with calipers when they're out of the gun.

The Tanfos are more fun here: You grab the trigger bar plunger with a pair of needle nose pliers, rip it out the top of the frame, and the mag button jumps out the side of the gun (and shoots it's microscopic plunger across the room if you haven't done this before.) Easier to take apart than a CZ. Not nearly as easy to put back together.

We can warm them up with a torch then toss them in a bucket of old motor oil. It'll be fine. Ship now!