hopalong Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Well the title says it all. Do you want a second chance at it ? I won't vote, but I need to use it to say I'm defraying the cost !!! BUT if I did vote it would be YES !!!! Edited January 9, 2010 by hopalong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I had a very bad run in with this thing and would like to have another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rather-B-Huntin Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I didn't shoot the Memphis Charity match, nor have I shot a PPR. But boy, I sure am politicing hard for my club to buy one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh george Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Would Love to have my first chance !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwana Six-Gun Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I obviously missed something here, but what is the conncetion to the PPR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I obviously missed something here, but what is the conncetion to the PPR? Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Have not had a chance to shoot it yet, but can't wait to have at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I am sure that I can do better than last time, and I am sure that I could do worse. Either way I want another shot at the Polish Plate Rack. Bring it on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The people who complain about "carnival" or "circus" stages are usually those who can't shoot worth a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffwalsh Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The people who complain about "carnival" or "circus" stages are usually those who can't shoot worth a crap. Right on. If you don't like it, there is always IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 You asked. I did not raise a fuss about it. Don't like my answer, that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I definitely want to shoot it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The people who complain about "carnival" or "circus" stages are usually those who can't shoot worth a crap. Well, that's not accurate. While I disagree with most of those that throw the "circus prop" term around, some of them are world class shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yeah, you're right Flex. I should have said the people who complain about "carnival" or "circus" stages are usually those tho can't shoot worth a crap.......except Ron Avery. Now my statement is much more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yes, the Rack is definitely a challenging target array and I would like another shot at it. My only complaint about the Polish Plate Rack is that it does not present a consistent challenge to all Divisions, especially since some are forced to make reloads to clean the rack while others are not. But thats just the nature of the Divisions in this game and is no reason not to present 8 targets on the Polish Rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yeah, you're right Flex. I should have said the people who complain about "carnival" or "circus" stages are usually those tho can't shoot worth a crap.......except Ron Avery. Now my statement is much more accurate. No it's not. But, it sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yes, the Rack is definitely a challenging target array and I would like another shot at it.My only complaint about the Polish Plate Rack is that it does not present a consistent challenge to all Divisions, especially since some are forced to make reloads to clean the rack while others are not. But thats just the nature of the Divisions in this game and is no reason not to present 8 targets on the Polish Rack. But isn't that the whole reason we have divisions in USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 +1 on the divisions. They are scored separate. Each match is like a number of (divisional) matches rolled into one. They just happen to use the same courses of fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I would vote no for the same reason Texas stars should never be used in a sanctioned match. This is assuming a similar design, Maybe this rack is better but I have never ever ever been on a squad where the the Texas star was scored accurately and legally, And this includes the 2009 Nationals, area and sectional matches. I constantly see RO's hung up on verbiage from prior rulebooks. about steel must fall to score, well thats true but plates are not subject to calibration, IAW 4.3.1.6 plates must fall when hit, or it is a REF, also if the mechanism is hit and a plate falls IAW 4.3.1.5 that is also a REF, At Nationals I saw plates not fall when hit and I saw multi plates fall with a single shot, or a ht to the arm. If the moving plate racks are scored IAW the rules the satge would take months with all the reshoots, So RO's are forced to score them against the rules to keep the match moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I have seen stars that run great, no problems...and I have seen them that fail (in the ways you mention) on a few shooters per squad. If they work, they ought to be fine in any match. If they don't...can them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 If they work, thats just it they dont, and when they arnt they are not scored properly. If we cant get it right at Nationals I suspect they arnt right anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slflr Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Properly engaged, the PPR is two ea, 4 plate, stationary racks. Should not be a problem for anyone who uses their front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slflr Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) wide45 Have you shot the PPR? Were you there? There were some inconsistencies. Edited January 11, 2010 by slflr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCV Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I never even hear of a PPR until now....... Id love to give it a try..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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