STIGUY Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I have a "put together) .223 Upper that includes a VLTOR rifle lenght forend on a 16" barrel with a Cooley Comp, low mass bolt and Enidine shock absorbing buffer. The gun still seems to recoil more than I would like. Will replacing the hidden (under the forend) low profile gas block with an Adjustable Gas Block make a substantial difference. The only reason I haven't tried it is that it will be somewhat of a PITA (given the setup) and it will also be sunsequently hard to adjust....I believe. Your thoughts are GREATLY APPRECIATED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I was just talking to a friend of mine about doing the same thing to my .308. His suggestion was to mill an access hole in the handguard to adjust the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Technically there will be a difference but when I added a JP adjustable gas block to my M&P15R I couldn't tell the difference because I am not that skilled of a shooter. Once I added the JP comp I could tell the system was working at reducing muzzle lift and felt recoil. If you add the lightened bolt and reduce the mass of your buffer like I have in my Firebird Precision upper and DPMS lower you get a real winner. Its almost uneventful to pull the trigger except for the roar of the comp. You will only need to adjust the gas block once. Shoot the gun with no handguard, turn the gas block down until the gun won't cycle, turn it back 1 turn, put handguard back on. Edited September 27, 2009 by jtischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I've seen shooters lose that adjustment screw at a match. If that happens you'll have a REAL pita! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I've seen shooters lose that adjustment screw at a match. If that happens you'll have a REAL pita! Red Loctite.....some more Red Loctite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) I've bought into that adjustable gas block thing 3 times and the lock tite coolaid twice and it bit me every time. Put a wide open gas block on it with Benny Hills comp and shoot the damn gun. The real answer is a 18 or 20 inch barrel with a rifle length gas tube, a wide open gas block with a SS JP carrier and lite buffer and Benny Hills comp and shoot the damn gun. A real soft shooting single shot rifle aint worth 6 eggs.--------------Larry Edited September 28, 2009 by Larry White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) First of all it's a 16", I take it it's a carbine lenth gas system ? If it is, put a pigtail gas tube on it (longer). How light weight is your carrier ? Which one ? And the Enidine does not reduce felt recoil at all, it is more of a rate reducer for full auto's, I hear it works really well for that. I tried one one and put it right back in the box !! Here's the prescribtion : pigtail gastube/ "Firebird Precision" adjustable gasblock/ JP SS carrier/ and JP lightened buffer !! The adjustable gasblocks work just fine when adjusted and tested properly. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1591/Pr...IGTAIL_GAS_TUBE Edited September 28, 2009 by P.Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIGUY Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 I guess I am looking for less felt recoil. It has a rifle length Enidine (or JP lighten buffer) due to the stock I am using....kind of a heavier weight ACE Socom Long (Short was too short fully exended). So are ya'll saying that the alumium buffer from JP will be better than the Enidine. What can I change to lighten the felt recoil and quicken recovery time. It just does not feel like I think it should feel with respect to recoil with shot to shot recovery. THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 What can I change to lighten the felt recoil and quicken recovery time. It just does not feel like I think it should feel with respect to recoil with shot to shot recovery. THANKS 18"-20" rifle gas bbl. As far as a adj. screws falling out, in addition to locktite its also wise to stake the screw hole slightly (after the screw is in of course) I have not had one ever fail me like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 be sure the gun will run dirty or it will fail every time. Harmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askomiko Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) The enidine is a bit heavy. So, a trick solution is to install a short enidine so that is doesn't move, eg. to the back of the rifle buffer tube, then modify a buffer so that the total lenght of those two is as long as a complete rifle buffer. And when adjusting the gas system, shoot as steeply down as you can, with a loose hold on the rifle. You will encounter something like that in a match some day, and then wonder why the rifle won't cycle. It's a big difference in the amount of gas needed for cycling the bolt carrier up, vs. shooting prone and holding the gun tight, and cycling straight back. Edited October 2, 2009 by askomiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) post edit. too tired. Edited October 3, 2009 by Harmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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