Joseph796 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Question: Is the Blade-Tech DOA (Dropped and Offset) Holster legal in Single Stack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 No, the holster has to carry the front strap above the belt. 20 Holster restrictions •Suitable for everyday use. “Race gun” type holster prohibited. •Must carry pistol so that the entire front strap (to the trigger guard) is at or above the top of the belt. Female shooters must carry the pistol no lower than the heel of the butt at the top of the belt. •May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster exempt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 My understanding is that it is legal with the Stingray mount but not the DOH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph796 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 No, the holster has to carry the front strap above the belt.20 Holster restrictions •Suitable for everyday use. “Race gun” type holster prohibited. •Must carry pistol so that the entire front strap (to the trigger guard) is at or above the top of the belt. Female shooters must carry the pistol no lower than the heel of the butt at the top of the belt. •May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster exempt). Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph796 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 My understanding is that it is legal with the Stingray mount but not the DOH. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) Both the Tek-Lok and StingRay brakcets are fine on a Blade Tech holster for Single Stack, but the DOH bracket makes it sit too low for men to use legally. I think the DOH may be legal for the lady folk, but they'd have to check to make sure - see rules sited above from USPSA rule book. Edited August 23, 2008 by Krautwagen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckbradley Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 So would a Stingray with just an offset spacer be legal as long as the front strap is above the belt? Some us shapely challenged shooters need some space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 So would a Stingray with just an offset spacer be legal as long as the front strap is above the belt? Some us shapely challenged shooters need some space. Chuck, to the best of my knowledge you'd just have to comply with the 2" from the inside of the belt requirement..... ....and that's a little different from the old 2" to the body requirement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I use a Blackhawk Serpa holster with 2 spacers on my belt. It works quite well for me and is totally legal per the SS Appendix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Both the Tek-Lok and StingRay brakcets are fine on a Blade Tech holster for Single Stack, but the DOH bracket makes it sit too low for men to use legally. I think the DOH may be legal for the lady folk, but they'd have to check to make sure - see rules sited above from USPSA rule book. It is. Appendix D, #20: "Female shooters must carry the pistol no lower than the heel of the butt at the top of the belt" I looked this up prior to Xmas as I was wanting to get Mrs.2MoreChains a better holster. She likes it, and it meets the above rule. No more having to kink her body to the left to clear her ribs (and other parts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So would a Stingray with just an offset spacer be legal as long as the front strap is above the belt? Some us shapely challenged shooters need some space. Chuck, to the best of my knowledge you'd just have to comply with the 2" from the inside of the belt requirement..... ....and that's a little different from the old 2" to the body requirement.... Nik.. what's the main difference here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So would a Stingray with just an offset spacer be legal as long as the front strap is above the belt? Some us shapely challenged shooters need some space. Chuck, to the best of my knowledge you'd just have to comply with the 2" from the inside of the belt requirement..... ....and that's a little different from the old 2" to the body requirement.... Nik.. what's the main difference here? If you're carrying a good bit of spare tire around your middle --- you had a little more leeway under the old rules, as the measurement was from the inside of the grip to the shooter's torso, which was often closer than the inside of the belt, by a skosh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have a couple of the Blade-Tech's, but no spacers to angle the grip out, are they available, who has them, and can I get some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John2A Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So would a Stingray with just an offset spacer be legal as long as the front strap is above the belt? Some us shapely challenged shooters need some space. Chuck I too am a shapley shooter and made a spacer that is 1/4" thick and is 100% legal. Had George Jones look at it during our RO class. from gun to inside belt on CR Speed is 1-15/16". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have a couple of the Blade-Tech's, but no spacers to angle the grip out, are they available, who has them, and can I get some? It's often a matter of longer screws and some sort of rubber washers or tubing --- not unlike the washers you wind in blade-Tech's mag pouches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbie Shooter Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 That with some Blackhawk mag pouches on a CRSpeed or double alpha and you're good to go: http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/CO...son/Suit001.jpg I use black zip ties to secure the holster and the mag pouches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 . . Nik.. what's the main difference here? If you're carrying a good bit of spare tire around your middle --- you had a little more leeway under the old rules, as the measurement was from the inside of the grip to the shooter's torso, which was often closer than the inside of the belt, by a skosh..... Some of us have more than a "skosh" around the middle after the holidays Nic! (as you know, light beer is not too popular in Bavaria & its out right banned in the in-law's house). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckbradley Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 The old rule of 2" from the torso was fair but 2 inches from the inside of the belt is pretty discriminatory. Why was the rule changed? It would only hurt those that have that spare tire. I wasnt aware of this rule change and am not too happy about it. Is there a good reason that i dont see? Now we need some type of shield that goes inside the belt so we can draw the gun without issues. Who does this stuff without thinking? Is it just in Single Stack or is it in every division now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The old rule of 2" from the torso was fair but 2 inches from the inside of the belt is pretty discriminatory. Why was the rule changed? It would only hurt those that have that spare tire. I wasnt aware of this rule change and am not too happy about it. Is there a good reason that i dont see? Now we need some type of shield that goes inside the belt so we can draw the gun without issues. Who does this stuff without thinking? Is it just in Single Stack or is it in every division now? It's every division. There's a good reason for the change --- it sets up a consistent measurement that can be taken whether or not the shooter is wearing the belt at the time..... There was quite a bit of discussion about this rule change during the time the proposed rules were being discussed on the USPSA forums --- in part because the initial proposal had a much tighter limit for distance from the belt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckbradley Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The old rule of 2" from the torso was fair but 2 inches from the inside of the belt is pretty discriminatory. Why was the rule changed? It would only hurt those that have that spare tire. I wasnt aware of this rule change and am not too happy about it. Is there a good reason that i dont see? Now we need some type of shield that goes inside the belt so we can draw the gun without issues. Who does this stuff without thinking? Is it just in Single Stack or is it in every division now? It's every division. There's a good reason for the change --- it sets up a consistent measurement that can be taken whether or not the shooter is wearing the belt at the time..... There was quite a bit of discussion about this rule change during the time the proposed rules were being discussed on the USPSA forums --- in part because the initial proposal had a much tighter limit for distance from the belt.... Wow. So now those of us with the spare tire challenge have to deal with guns sticking us in the sides and the safety issue of grabbing shirts instead of all gun or just not play. I dont really like doing things in spite of rule but I guess i will have to and see where it leads. Wish i had known about this when it was being discussed , I would have bent a few ears. I had more faith in our leadership and I was wrong. Does anybody know if there was a breakdown vote on these individual rules? Anybody make a device to get around this rule? To move the belt out away from the body since that is the new measuring point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 The old rule of 2" from the torso was fair but 2 inches from the inside of the belt is pretty discriminatory. Why was the rule changed? It would only hurt those that have that spare tire. I wasnt aware of this rule change and am not too happy about it. Is there a good reason that i dont see? Now we need some type of shield that goes inside the belt so we can draw the gun without issues. Who does this stuff without thinking? Is it just in Single Stack or is it in every division now? It's every division. There's a good reason for the change --- it sets up a consistent measurement that can be taken whether or not the shooter is wearing the belt at the time..... There was quite a bit of discussion about this rule change during the time the proposed rules were being discussed on the USPSA forums --- in part because the initial proposal had a much tighter limit for distance from the belt.... Wow. So now those of us with the spare tire challenge have to deal with guns sticking us in the sides and the safety issue of grabbing shirts instead of all gun or just not play. I dont really like doing things in spite of rule but I guess i will have to and see where it leads. Wish i had known about this when it was being discussed , I would have bent a few ears. I had more faith in our leadership and I was wrong. Does anybody know if there was a breakdown vote on these individual rules? Anybody make a device to get around this rule? To move the belt out away from the body since that is the new measuring point. There is a silver lining in this dark cloud. Those of us whose gut pushes our magazines out are now OK. You can measure that distance with the belt off if there is any question about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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