-JQ- Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I told myself I wasn't going to post in the Hate forum for a while...but this is too much. An Arizona home invasion allegedly orchestrated by Mexican citizens wearing tactical gear sparked fears that members of the Mexican military were involved in a wave of violent crime in the Phoenix area, according to local reports. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372202,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I told myself I wasn't going to post in the Hate forum for a while...but this is too much. An Arizona home invasion allegedly orchestrated by Mexican citizens wearing tactical gear sparked fears that members of the Mexican military were involved in a wave of violent crime in the Phoenix area, according to local reports. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372202,00.html That is about as good a case as can be made to do away with 'no knock' searches and arrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVelocity Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 This adds yet another dimension to the problem of No-knock Warrants. Now, someone waking to screams and shouts when the door gets kicked in at 3am has to discern if it's A. Police, B. Home Invasion or C. Assassins dressed like SWAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 That is scary, No mercy for the perps. Lynch them!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I will say this has us valley residence a little um...alarmed. Jim M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I will say this has us valley residence a little um...alarmed. Jim M I would think it would have you ....all armed. Darn scary stuff. Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 For some reason, this is getting very little air play on anything other than Fox. It was broken on JD Hayworths radio show, but I have not seen it on any of the more "progressive" minded stations. On the other hand, Sheriff Arpaio ran of his staturation sweeps looking for illegals yesterday and that was incredibly big news. The illegal "rights" protesters got lots of free air time and were all over the local newspaper. Go figure. Phoenix is changing a lot and it is not for the better. I've been here a long time and the real old timers moved to Montana / Idaho about 5 years ago and now I understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 For some reason, this is getting very little air play on anything other than Fox. It was broken on JD Hayworths radio show, but I have not seen it on any of the more "progressive" minded stations. Huh ?? very strange indeed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 When you read the article, be sure to read the PDF'S!!! FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonT Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 This became popular with criminal element in Dallas and other large cities 15-20yrs. ago. We're starting to hear more news reports of it here too. It really sux because it is one of the most difficult scenerios for a citizen to defend agaist. About all I could think of to do would be to try and barracade yourself and say you're not coming out 'till you see squad cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 ... it is one of the most difficult scenerios for a citizen to defend agaist. How about we stop them at the border?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 "We have seen an increasing amount of these type of violent crimes in the past five months," Phoenix Police Sgt. Joel Tranter told the Arizona Republic. "We want the public to realize that these types of crimes will not be tolerated in Phoenix" ????? How about "We, the public, want the police to realize these types of crimes will not be tolerated." Scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) deleted. Ted Edited June 27, 2008 by Ted Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 BEers, This is a subject of Law enforcement that has always bothered me. There is no way to tell. the door is down. Is it the Good Guys or the Bad Guys? After much thought I decided the Good Guys are going to have to live without the 'invasion' tactic. It is nice for them for the same reason it is nice for the criminals. The only way to resolve the issue is to tell the public that if there is no knock, it is the bad guys. miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 ok, so then the bad guys will knock, shout "Police" and then bust down the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I think this is one of those subjects than could turn ugly real fast and get closed. I also think that there is no perfect answer for this problem of no knocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well, could park all the squad cars on the lawn and as soon as the door goes down all the cherry's come on ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann the Horrible Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) We had several occurrences here in South Africa where criminals used police lights and in some cases even marked Traffic police cars to stop and rob. The problem was so bad that the Police advised people not to stop but to drive to the nearest Police station. Currently we have the Zimbabwean army robbing shops and banks in the Northern part of our country. In one shootout several Policemen were killed. Our government is still using its "silent negotiations" to try and rectify what is happening in that deeply trouble country. If there is one place where a invasion would help the citizens of a country it is Zimbabwe. The opposition leader had to flee to the Dutch embassy to escape being murdered by the government Edited June 28, 2008 by Johann the Horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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