LittlePistol Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it using a search. I have been practicing my reloads with my Colt (which has no magwell) while I am waiting for my STI (which has a magwell) to get here. Is this a good idea, or am I at risk of developing a "bad habit" that could affect how I reload a gun with a magwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 If you are loading a single stack with no magwell you are truly learning to "look" the mag into the gun. It's all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 If you are loading a single stack with no magwell you are truly learning to "look" the mag into the gun. It's all good! Listen to Merlin. He may be older than dirt, but he's right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittlePistol Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 I thought so, but figured I'd ask you "old guys" just to be sure!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 (edited) Young people today are just downright mean... I am hurt something terrible by that cold and insensitive jab at my advancing years...(insert tear in eye icon)... If you are loading a single stack with no magwell you are truly learning to "look" the mag into the gun. It's all good! Listen to Merlin. He may be older than dirt, but he's right! Edited February 11, 2007 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Magwell or not, my weakness was the guns angle and location. I put a little white dot up inside the well, about 1-1/4" or so. It forces me to "look" the mag in. Seeing where to go with the reload has REALLY helped me in the speed department. My G35 has a magwell and my G17 doesn't. Practicing with the 17 has made reloads the strongest aspect of my rather sad and tragic game. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 In my opinion...the most important thing is to practice with the same equipment you use in the match. If you shoot in competition with a magwell...you should be practicing with a magwell. The more consistent you can make EVERY aspect of your game...the less there is to potentially go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Both Jake and OLD Merlin are right. It is best to practice with what ya plan to dance with. But in a pinch, practicing with a Single Stack is going to make you more precise and better when you get your wide body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I agree with Merlin, the small mag opening can only make you more accurate. And when you get your Big gun it will be all the better jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 In my opinion...the most important thing is to practice with the same equipment you use in the match.If you shoot in competition with a magwell...you should be practicing with a magwell. The more consistent you can make EVERY aspect of your game...the less there is to potentially go wrong. I really do believe that a smaller opening would force an increase in concentration....But a glaring fact here is that while I as a struggling B shooter may think what I will when a GM offers advise on how to play the game we lesser mortals should pay damned close attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does anyone have some good videos of some warpspeed singlestack reloads? I'm thinking along the lines of the ubiquitous Open gun Travis Tomasie video, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does anyone have some good videos of some warpspeed singlestack reloads? I'm thinking along the lines of the ubiquitous Open gun Travis Tomasie video, etc... The mechanics are the same, just keep watching Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does anyone have some good videos of some warpspeed singlestack reloads? I'm thinking along the lines of the ubiquitous Open gun Travis Tomasie video, etc... The mechanics are the same, just keep watching Travis. Er, so your theory is that it'd be bad if any videos of fast singlestack reloads were to see the light of day? Gimme the videos, dammit. (I kid, I kid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does anyone have some good videos of some warpspeed singlestack reloads? I'm thinking along the lines of the ubiquitous Open gun Travis Tomasie video, etc... With Angus apparently shooting SS now, I'm sure something will surface shortly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does anyone have some good videos of some warpspeed singlestack reloads? I'm thinking along the lines of the ubiquitous Open gun Travis Tomasie video, etc... The mechanics are the same, just keep watching Travis. Er, so your theory is that it'd be bad if any videos of fast singlestack reloads were to see the light of day? Gimme the videos, dammit. (I kid, I kid) LMAO, not bad, but I don't see the purpose being the mechanics are the same. Just talk Travis into dong a SS video for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 In my opinion...the most important thing is to practice with the same equipment you use in the match.If you shoot in competition with a magwell...you should be practicing with a magwell. The more consistent you can make EVERY aspect of your game...the less there is to potentially go wrong. I shoot a production gun with a 4.5 lbs trigger and a factory beveled magwell... I often practice with an identical gun, except no beveled magwell and a 6.5 lbs trigger. If anything, I think it makes me better. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Is this a good idea, or am I at risk of developing a "bad habit" that could affect how I reload a gun with a magwell? Far from it. IMO this can only help you. Doing a good, fast reload with a single stack with no mag well requires absolute precision. Do that for awhile, get good at it, and when you do get a mag well it'll be like taking off clodhoppers and putting on track shoes. By contrast, if all you've ever worked out with is a mag well, no mag well will be a hard nut to crack. My advice: keep practicing with that Colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 I purchased an STI Trojan 5.0 (so I can practice 'safe' shooting) and wasn't having a problem reloading (no magwell). The gun came with a disappointing plastic MSH, so I ordered the STI MSH and mag well (the same as on the Sentinel), I didn't see any change to my reloads, but I really liked the 'cool' factor of the magwell. I'm pleased with the gun and the fit and finish of the MSH and magwell are great. I had to shorten the screw a wee bit to tighten the magwell to the MSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadetree Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Is this a good idea, or am I at risk of developing a "bad habit" that could affect how I reload a gun with a magwell? Far from it. IMO this can only help you. Doing a good, fast reload with a single stack with no mag well requires absolute precision. Do that for awhile, get good at it, and when you do get a mag well it'll be like taking off clodhoppers and putting on track shoes. By contrast, if all you've ever worked out with is a mag well, no mag well will be a hard nut to crack. My advice: keep practicing with that Colt. I practice reloads with the gun with the smalles mag hole I have.. I practice trigger controle with the gun with the crappiest trigger pull I have... I practice seeing the front sight with gun with the crappiest sights.... When I go to shoot it's amazing how much easier it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I reloaded a single stack for 3 decades with no magwell, then used a magwell for 5 or so years once they were invented (or I became aware of them ). When I switched to a Para with an Ice magwell the mag changes were totally effortless. Jake is of course correct, but you don't have your STI yet to practice with, and I don't believe what you're doing could possibly be worse than not practicing reloads at all until your STI arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevoro Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Seems to me that the mag well is to make a mistake less costly. They aren't really designed to have your mag bounce off them every single reload. I don't think Travis was banging his mags off the side of the mag well in his video. That wouldn't be smooth. Practice with what you are going to shoot, definitely not with a bigger mag well like the ICE if you're not going to use it in the match. If you practice with a small one and shoot with a big one, your margin for error will be huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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