Hot Brass Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 After collecting data on what guns people shoot at our state match, I thought I would share it. Not sure there is any real significance to this, but you may find it interesting. This chart does not contain anything more than the manufacturer's name. I would venture to say that this is fairly typical for the sanctioned matches that I have shot. There were a total of 173 shooters at this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2fast Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Interesting, thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Is there anyway for you to sort out how many of the Glock shooters were in SSP vs ESP. We had a pretty good discussion recently about the XD and it's exclusion from SSP because it was SA. In my neck of the woods SSP is probably 80% Glocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Brass Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Is there anyway for you to sort out how many of the Glock shooters were in SSP vs ESP. We had a pretty good discussion recently about the XD and it's exclusion from SSP because it was SA. In my neck of the woods SSP is probably 80% Glocks. This is quick and dirty, but it should give you some idea: MFG Div # ---------------------------------- Beretta SSP 3 Caspian CDP 1 Caspian ESP 3 Colt CDP 4 CZ SSP 2 Glock CDP 7 Glock ESP 8 Glock SSP 60 H&K ESP 1 H&K SSP 1 Kimber CDP 14 Kimber ESP 3 Les Baer CDP 5 Les Baer ESP 1 Millenium Custom ESP 1 Nighthawk CDP 1 Other CDP 2 Para Ordinance ESP 5 SigArms CDP 1 SigArms ESP 1 SigArms SSP 3 Smith & Wesson CDP 2 Smith & Wesson ESR 4 Smith & Wesson SSP 3 Smith & Wesson SSR 4 Springfield Armory CDP 9 Springfield Armory ESP 7 Springfield Armory ESR 1 STI CDP 1 STI ESP 9 Valtro CDP 1 Wilson Combat CDP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 By quick count Glock represented 60 out of the 72 shooters in SSP at your state match. I wonder if a gun is so strong that it represents 83% of the shooters in one division if it is healthy for the sport in the long run. Sorry for the thread drift but it isn't often you get the gun stats from a state match and your match tracks with what I have observed here in the NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I think Bill should outlaw Glocks from IDPA. They win too many Divisions and Classes. What is going to happen when Glock finally comes out with the G36 Tactical? Will CDP become single action only? I really like the pre-production G36T I am testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 By quick count Glock represented 60 out of the 72 shooters in SSP at your state match. I wonder if a gun is so strong that it represents 83% of the shooters in one division if it is healthy for the sport in the long run. Sorry for the thread drift but it isn't often you get the gun stats from a state match and your match tracks with what I have observed here in the NE. From my experience, that 80% about mirrors Glock's hold on the full size service pistol market. In that particular niche, Glock has dominated for a dozen or so years. Looking at it from another angle, Glock's price and delivery to the retail dealer has been consistent for over a decade as well. I know of no other manufacturer in the firearm industry with the same level of consistency in regards to price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 As Flexmoney once put it, "The Glock is guilty of excess popularity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyblaze Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 After collecting data on what guns people shoot at our state match, I thought I would share it. Not sure there is any real significance to this, but you may find it interesting. This chart does not contain anything more than the manufacturer's name.I would venture to say that this is fairly typical for the sanctioned matches that I have shot. There were a total of 173 shooters at this match. do you have any information on which holsters were used? thanks, BM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 good to know that i was in the 4% class...as it went along with my standings as well i like stuff like this..but will anybody get to see that much support from the manufactures??? the 2 times i was at the nationals, i would have thought it would be like a mini shot show or at least something you would see at knob creek....it would be awsome if we had 50 to 100 manufactures show up .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 The latest IDPA magazine has a break down of guns, holsters, ammo and even reloaders from thier Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Here's a breakdown from this past weekend's "Frozen Penguin" (guns are about halfway down the page.) Last summer's PA state match breakdown (sunglasses suggested ) 2005 Ohio state match 2005 PA state match 2005 Texas state match 2004 CA state match 2004 Wisconsin state match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Springfield Armory ESR 1HUH???? What kind of revolver does SA have? News to me...although I've been clueless before... Strange that the CZs were in SSP, rather than ESP. I know you can shoot them in both, I just think of them as cocked-and-locked guns. And no BHPs... Glocks are inexpensive, decently accurate, reliable (in stock form, anyway), mags are cheap and accessories are plentiful. These factors apparently outweigh the lousy human engineering and butt-ugliness. I think the S&W M&P's success is going to make serious inroads on Glock's SSP (and USPSA Production) dominance, but a 20 year headstart is tough to overcome. What is going to happen when Glock finally comes out with the G36 Tactical? Will CDP become single action only? I really like the pre-production G36T I am testing.If Glock stretches the G36 to eight rounds, it'd be the first Glock I'd consider buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 You can't reload a BHP - BTDT. Those square top mags just don't want to find a home in the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Brass Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 do you have any information on which holsters were used?thanks, BM No. We did not collect it. Springfield Armory ESR 1HUH???? What kind of revolver does SA have? News to me...although I've been clueless before... Strange that the CZs were in SSP, rather than ESP. I know you can shoot them in both, I just think of them as cocked-and-locked guns. And no BHPs... Glocks are inexpensive, decently accurate, reliable (in stock form, anyway), mags are cheap and accessories are plentiful. These factors apparently outweigh the lousy human engineering and butt-ugliness. I think the S&W M&P's success is going to make serious inroads on Glock's SSP (and USPSA Production) dominance, but a 20 year headstart is tough to overcome. What is going to happen when Glock finally comes out with the G36 Tactical? Will CDP become single action only? I really like the pre-production G36T I am testing.If Glock stretches the G36 to eight rounds, it'd be the first Glock I'd consider buying. The shooter(s) probably changed division after sending in his application or the day of the match. We did not update the mfg info when a shooter chose to change divisions. Like I said, this is rough data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here's a breakdown from this past weekend's "Frozen Penguin" (guns are about halfway down the page.)Last summer's PA state match breakdown (sunglasses suggested ) 2005 Ohio state match 2005 PA state match 2005 Texas state match 2004 CA state match 2004 Wisconsin state match I am curious as to the median price for guns used in the IDPA matches listed above. With the Huge numbers of Glocks ...... ??? It's gonna be hard to get a lot of different manufacturers interested when 80% of the people shoot a $450.00 gun.... To me it looks like the average IDPA shooter's equipment will be 25% of the average USPSA shooters gear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 To me it looks like the average IDPA shooter's equipment will be 25% of the average USPSA shooters gear...Merlin - It depends. In SSP and Production, the costs would be about the same since the gear is about the same. Ditto with CDP and SSD/ L10 and SSR/ESR and Revolver. It's mainly with Limited and Open that costs get really crazy - shoot, I've bought new, high-quality pistols for less money than most Open shooters spend to get their mags "tuned". (And still, spontaneous disassembly is a common sight. ) But it's a free country, and it's their money, and it makes them happy and provides employment for others, so it can't be all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It is a little funny to watch an Open shooter have a "speed unload" with a 28 round big stick. Have seen that a couple of times. First round goes bang then the rest dump on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I had that happen a couple of times with a good old single stack. Ol' Chip's spot welds were not up to holding ten rounds of 9mm Miller Major. He replaced them, of course, but it did not get me back the time spent straightening things out during the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 To me it looks like the average IDPA shooter's equipment will be 25% of the average USPSA shooters gear... Of course, one of the major announced reasons for establishing IDPA was to get away from high-priced guns and an "equipment race". Many people think IDPA stands for "I Don't Practice Anymore." Some say it's really "I Don't Pay Anymore" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Some say it's really "I Don't Pay Anymore" I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJONES5 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 To me it looks like the average IDPA shooter's equipment will be 25% of the average USPSA shooters gear... Of course, one of the major announced reasons for establishing IDPA was to get away from high-priced guns and an "equipment race". Many people think IDPA stands for "I Don't Practice Anymore." Some say it's really "I Don't Pay Anymore" GOOD ONE PAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerwas Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 For the Smith and Wesson pistols listed.... Is there a way to break that down to see how many M&P pistols are being used? Should be fun to watch this pistol compete with the Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Brass Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 For the Smith and Wesson pistols listed....Is there a way to break that down to see how many M&P pistols are being used? Should be fun to watch this pistol compete with the Glock. At the GA match there were two M&P's, two 1911's, one .40s&w (no model specified) and the rest were revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardschennberg Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 There are two types of reliablility that are important at IDPA matches: 1. The gun never malfunctions - no jams or misfires. 2. The gun never slide-locks with rounds still in a magazine, and always slide-locks on an empty magazine. Glocks do this out-of-of the box and with most IDPA-legal modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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