Jane

Detective Luca Benedetti was shot and killed on May 10 while executing a search warrant. Luca started shooting at our range in his early 20s - before he went through the police academy. I watched him grow from a bubbly young boy into a sweet young man over the past 15 years. The Hogue range dedicated a plaque to him today. I kept looking into the back corner of the sign-in shack at today's match to see if Luca's sweet smile would flash back. He leaves behind a wife and two young daughters. So sad....

Yeah. I liked the rules when I joined (late in '02.... Beach Bunny's first state match scored was the '03 California). The brown rulebook came out in 2005 (which did away with par time and invented ESR). All of that was before the Tigers reinvented things. I was never nearly as active as you are, though. And don't think I ever shot a par time IDPA stage. I let my membership lapse after the rulebook that dropped FTN and introduced the flagrant.

Such a kid, Matt Check page 25 from the LGB: https://www.beachbunnysoftware.com/idpa/download/idparulebook2001.pdf Cheers, Jane

As a REALLY mediocre 70-yr old who had cataract/IOLs two years ago, I've fooled around with this in the small amount of shooting I still do. I tried shooting some stages with +1.0 computer glasses (full size lenses, versus the smaller reading glasses). Jim's empiricism - to decide whether to have some eye protection made with a prescription right lens. Wound up swapping the Warren sights on my Glock for Dawsons last summer, and found I can now see the sights well enough for my level of mediocrity - plate rack at 10-15 yards, etc. Even renewing my Nevada CCW last month had no trouble with the (admittedly trivial) shooting qualification at an indoor range.

Joyce's columns in the magazine for the past few years have listed her as Executive Director, not President. Their membership app lists Bill as President, John Sayle as VP, Joyce as Treasurer: http://www.idpa.com/content/downloads/Mem_App.pdf

It didn't matter. Some clubs did as Jim describes. Ours shot a 6-stage match, but measured and set up 4 of the stages to be the ones according to the Postal Match diagram. Then just uploaded the scores for those 4 stages.

I've noticed a few things. 3.5.4 seems to have been deleted. ("Cover lines extend back from the center of the visible -0 zone to the point of the physical barrier up range to the stage boundary.") They fixed the 2 inch high popper and 18 square inch down zero language. Fault lines change from "shall be employed" to "must be employed". The drawings on page 10 have been deleted. Several other items about fault lines have been deleted - such as the old 3.6.3.D - "shall be aligned with cover line of the first target" Also posted a revised drawing for the classifier stage that has target heights and fault lines: http://members.idpa.com/Content/Stages/WalkThrough/hhoffax5.nzb.pdf

The old link on their MISC page still points to version 1a. This is version 2: http://members.idpa.com/Content/Rules/4sig5pxx.mr1.pdf

I see they removed the FTN language from 4.2.1 and 4.3.1 in this revision.

revised version 2017.1a is now on their website

Yesssss..... BUT contradicted by 9.7.2 (equity) which says if you shoot SS in a classifier, for example, then any other classifications lower than SS will be promoted to X-1 (i.e., to MM). So not applying that classification evenly to all other divisions. And yes, the wording of 9.5.1 is interesting. Shoot a classifier with a Glock 23 for a score of 148. If you said you were shooting CCP, you'd be SS in all autoloader division. If you said you were shooting it in SSP, you'd be MM in all divisions. A few bits of the draft as released I do find a bit challenging to wrap my mind around...... ------------- edited to add.... so the final rulebook is out, and now equity only applies to match bumps, not to the classifier. As for my Glock 23 example... they've removed the classifier details from the new rulebook, which says those are now on idpa.com. Has anybody located them yet?

So why don't you put one one? The postal match was NEVER an official implemented-by-IDPA thing. It started in 2007 (??) by Ken Ortbach (now the AC for Canada), Lenny Jacukowicz, and Walt Jones. They did it for 2 or 3 years. Then Ted Murphy and his wife did it for several years. After the first year or two, IDPA did put a blurb about it on their website. But it was a done-by-members, grass roots thing. So if people miss the postal match, why not put one on? I nominate Rowdy!

But how would they do that, Rowdy? When you upload classifiers to their website, all they ingest is the total time per stage for each guy. No way to keep track of what was raw time and what was points down. It's a reasonable guess that points down is a much higher percent of score for marksmen than it is for masters. But they can't have empirical historical numbers to show exactly what that percentage is.

There's an online test that needs to be taken before somebody takes an SO class. In addition, attached pic is part of the application I've seen for the current process (after you've taken the online test)... pretty much what Ken describes. Not something tribal...

Ken, I've seen that in the BUG equipment rules. (8.2.6.6.1.7). Does that apply to CCP as well (which is what he's asking?)

I'm no expert... trying to figure this stuff out myself. Have you tried this option? (No... probably not an option unless you've already clicked something for that website.)

In Firefox (windows anyway), Click the "hamburger" button in the upper right corner. Click Options In the left column, click Content On the Content page, click the Choose.. button in the "Notifications" section. Have at it.

Firefox and Chrome both bitch. 8:40AM PDT.

A lot of match directors check the classification database from the idpa website before a sanctioned match and adjust classifications as needed.

Rules on this have been consistent for a number of years. In the current rulebook - 3.6.4 - "A shooter may not leave cover, cross or enter any openings with an empty firearm" 3.4.4 - "A firearm is deemed reloaded when the magazine is fully seated and the slide is fully forward or the revolver cylinder is closed and the firearm contains at least one unfired cartridge in the chamber, magazine, or cylinder." Thus, you can leave cover when the gun is in that condition - mag is seated and slide is forward. However 3.7 - "At no time is it permissible to fire while holding a magazine, speed loader/moon clip, or loose ammunition." Thus you need to have the mag stowed before actually taking a shot following the reload.

Looks pretty much open if you have a current BUG classification: http://www.matchreg.com/bug/info.htm http://www.matchreg.com/bug/

I was at the awards banquet, Chris. But with my poor hearing in my old age, I can't guarantee I heard everything accurately from the PA system. I *think* Joyce mentioned the possibility of looking at other penalties as well (maybe HNT?) But quite possible that I mis-heard. It's not a "did". It's a "gonna do". No time frame announced. My own attitude is "wait and see...."

Gotta disagree, Chris. One guy's opinion of what "should be enough" leads to the beloved Tribal Rulez Syndrome. Need to follow the rulebook whether or not one agrees with the specific rule. As an example of how this could be justified - Bobby Burner races through and puts 2 on each. Incompetent Jane really tries to put 3 but only gets 2 hits on each. Both are down the mikes. But Bobby got an advantage by taking fewer shots. And JD... "15 years" is another thing we who've done this for awhile need to be aware of. Some of the rules change. In this case, they're referring to 4.1.1 in the new rulebook. "When the shooter does not fire enough rounds at a target, the unfired rounds are counted as misses and a Procedural Error penalty is assessed for not following the CoF description." The latest rules clarification (when you're logged in to the idpa.com website) elaborate (pic)

PM sent. But all the information is available on my web page. BTW... others in Florida have figured it out: http://www.cfrpc.com/images/idpa/matches/2015/06%20-%20June/2015-06-07.htm