codyb Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 So where is the best place to pick up a new Saiga 12, 10 round mag, and what are the useful conversions? I read that the bolt will now stay open on an empty mag? True or is that a mod also. Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 So where is the best place to pick up a new Saiga 12, 10 round mag, and what are the useful conversions? Get it from Tony Rumore . He's the heat when it comes to a S-12. Tromix AGP has the 10 round mags AGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 So where is the best place to pick up a new Saiga 12, 10 round mag, and what are the useful conversions? I read that the bolt will now stay open on an empty mag? True or is that a mod also. Cody They have manual hold open devices to make loading easier. A few people are experimenting with LRBHO but they require modifying the gun and all the mags. I would suggest getting the basic gun and then shooting it before deciding what you want to add to it. The only mod it needs for open division is a red dot sight IMHO. Tony does good work, but he is back logged 90-120 days right now. Might as well get the gun and shoot it some before sending it off to get modified. We have some Saigas for sale here. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...mp;#entry512186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyb Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 [/b]The only mod it needs for open division is a red dot sight IMHO What about staying with the irons, which ones work the best, will it still be considered usable for tactical class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 [/b]The only mod it needs for open division is a red dot sight IMHOWhat about staying with the irons, which ones work the best, will it still be considered usable for tactical class? Under current rules you can't use Saiga-12s in tactical...the detach mag = speed loading device. The stock rib with bead sight isn't bad. Kreb's Custom makes an Iron sight set up, and Tromix can add HK sights to the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRumore Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 You could also go with the XS Sight Systems HK rear sight. It replaces the HK hub with a ghost ring. You can also put an XS tritium dot up front if you want. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topmaul Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 [/b]The only mod it needs for open division is a red dot sight IMHO What about staying with the irons, which ones work the best, will it still be considered usable for tactical class? Under current rules you can't use Saiga-12s in tactical...the detach mag = speed loading device. The stock rib with bead sight isn't bad. Kreb's Custom makes an Iron sight set up, and Tromix can add HK sights to the gun. Tactical, you can have a detachible mag for your pistol, and your rifle, but somehow shotgun mags are not tactical never figured that out. That is why I like TSA rules at least they understand the meaning of the word "tactical" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Alan Samuel shooting his stock Saiga-12 with AGP magazines: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluker1 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Alan Samuel shooting his stock Saiga-12 with AGP magazines: only 2 mods to this Saiga-12. I have a Tromix A2 Style flash hider I stole of of my Full Auto Saiga-12 and a buffertech AK buffer. alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topmaul Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) Not bad he shoots fast but really needs to work on mag changes, at my wish I had the film of RonSwin from the Saiga Forum he has those closed bolt combat reload of factory 8s down to a sciense. Speaking of Buffer Tech you might want to invest in mag clinchers they make really good ones. Edited February 21, 2007 by Topmaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTOSHootr Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So where is the best place to pick up a new Saiga 12, 10 round mag, and what are the useful conversions? Get it from Tony Rumore . He's the heat when it comes to a S-12. Tromix +1 I didn't buy my Siaga from Tony, I'm doing the conversion myself (seemed like a good idea at the time). However, I wanted one of his trigger guards. I e-mailed him Tuesday while he was moving his shop about ordering one. He just sent one without even talking to me and left me a voicemail to pay him next week. It arrived here today. Add him (his associate Bob too) to the list of really nice people to deal with in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Are you guys getting them to work toped off (10+1)? Mine work fine if I only load 10 in the gun but if I top off it will not load the first round out of the mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Are you guys getting them to work toped off (10+1)? Mine work fine if I only load 10 in the gun but if I top off it will not load the first round out of the mag. Same for me too much tension on the top shell if you load 10+1, 9+1 works fine. I load from an open bolt so loading the mags to 10 isn't a problem for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfmaster Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) Hi have three of the new AGP 10-round magazines. I have no trouble loading one in the pipe and then inserting a fully loaded 10-round magazine on a closed bolt. It's also very reliable during firing; I am able to realiably unload all 11 rounds. If you're having trouble, try oiling the sides of the follower. I also press the follower up and updown about 50 or more times to losen it. Another good idea is to insert and remove an empty magazine from the gun at least 50 times. Next, load three rounds in the mag and then practice loading it on a closed bolt. When you get used to it, load six rounds and do more insert-and-remove practice. Finally, put 10 rounds in the mag and do more insert-and-remove drills. Before you know it, you will have loosened up the mag and then become an expert in loading a full magazine on a closed bolt, which is the key to a speedy reload. Plus, the 10-round mags fit looser than the Russian 8-rounders, making them perfect for reloads on a closed bolt, which helps save lots of time for our game. Edited February 28, 2007 by surfmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpowe Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Freds 14+1 mag worked like a charm at Tiger Valley and the 16+1 he just built for someone else worked fine during testing at our match last Sunday. I guess I just may have to sacrifice two of my AGP 10 rounders to to be competitive again! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Freds 14+1 mag worked like a charm at Tiger Valley and the 16+1 he just built for someone else worked fine during testing at our match last Sunday. I guess I just may have to sacrifice two of my AGP 10 rounders to to be competitive again!Bill You guys should just make it long enough to use as a monopod when you're standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpowe Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Plans are in the works... We're having trouble attaching the wheels without sacrificing some capacity! Fred thinks one wheel, but with two wheels we could install a motor and drive train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Good day folks I have been following this Saiga 12 for a while now and am starting to get a baaaaad itch for it. I looked at the Tromix site. If you had to chouse one of their done guns which one would it be and are they the only good manufacturer out their? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 How are you guys joining the mags to make big sticks? Plastic welding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) Good day folks I have been following this Saiga 12 for a while now and am starting to get a baaaaad itch for it. I looked at the Tromix site. If you had to chouse one of their done guns which one would it be and are they the only good manufacturer out their? Thanks. and are their conversions worth the money? Edited March 4, 2007 by 1911vm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 and are their conversions worth the money? Yes. A stock Saiga is a POS. Tromix makes them rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfly Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Is that one Mine I hope so thanks Mark Freds 14+1 mag worked like a charm at Tiger Valley and the 16+1 he just built for someone else worked fine during testing at our match last Sunday. I guess I just may have to sacrifice two of my AGP 10 rounders to to be competitive again!Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I have now figured out how to load the 10 rd mags, loaded to 10 rds, that is not any harder than an empty mag. 10 + 1 runs perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommiF Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 19+1 Amazing about that PJ:s magazine is that it works Tommi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I have now figured out how to load the 10 rd mags, loaded to 10 rds, that is not any harder than an empty mag. 10 + 1 runs perfectly. Paul, This forum is all about SHARING ... spill the beans!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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