bigbrowndog Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 the british comedian, benny hill......is on vacation, So i'll ask youz guys!! the bolt on my m1, returns to battery way to slowly, rearward is plenty quick, but forward is like dial up service. several guys at ESC06, noticed and it didn't bother me there, because of target transitions, however...today i went and tried to drive it hard, and PRESTO...hammer follow. i am reasonably certain its just slower lately, and i'm not faster lately. any intelligent quesses, oh wait i forgot, who i was asking........just kidding help thanks trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Trapr, the funny man will be back monday, til then try cleaning out the recoil spring and tube. A loose butt stock could be causing the tube to bind too. See you soon.------Larry Edited September 24, 2006 by lkytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Larry, We tried that and lubed the *&^% out of it but that still didnt stop the slow return, the bolt cycles really smoothly manually - its just whilst firing that things go into sloooow motion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I'm confused, is the gun in London or is the Queens #1 cop in SA? Hard to keep up with the international jet set these days. If the spring and tube are free is the fork bent? Bolt free in the carrier? Is it possible that sometimes the hooks are not catching and the hammer is rideing the bolt home. Is the lifter free as the bolt is closeing? I just ran out of parts and knowhow. Call Benny monday morning.----------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Ha ! No Trapr and I were test firing his M1 in Greece as it was playing up and as we were shooting it we noticed the go slow bolt thing. Coming back in recoil the bolt is the usual speed, its just when the bolt is going forward when it happens. It confused the heck out of us ! We lubed it, changed over trigger groups and nothing seemed to solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 If its all free and you changed the trigger group then Benelli is right, americans shoot them too much, but Benny will know.--------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Is it an African Bolt group or a European bolt group? Too much oil in recoil tube can act as a hydraulic buffer, if you plug the drain hole properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 SAY WHAT!!!!!!! dog is african/american gun is HK import, OK jeff i'll bite.......how do I tell if its african or european? BTW, i got the spring out, and it didn't seem to be heavily oiled. however the tail end was a little curled, the end furthest from the bolt. by a little i mean maybe 20 or 30 degrees and only 1.5" to 2". trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Monty Python strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 i get it now......... the bolt is unladen does that make a difference, in SPEED? trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 According to Benelli the recoil tube should not be lubricated. That may be your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 interesting???? of course benelli also says we shoot them to much...............i'll give a dry tube a try though. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 EUREKA!!!!!!!!! that little brit comedian fixed it, we replaced the main spring(recoil) with one from a -------, and removed a little -------. Benny said if i told he'd hafta kill me, trade secrets and all, that stuff. suffice it to say i can now shot my M1 with complete confidence, if you need some Benelli "whispering" done, call Benny. Trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 In other words you read the instructions here and went to see Benny.-------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 NO!!! i didn't read no steenking eenstructions..... trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Trapr, My M1 is showing symptons very similar to yours - slow bolt etc, it now jams every 5 shots or so, case not extracted, round on carrier andf not chambered, and I outshoot it constantly - something I normally find hard to do - what did Benny do exactly !!! I fighure new recoil spring, but what else It needs some Triangle mojo baby ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Mikey, he shaved the bolt (you'll have to ask him how much), and he replaced the spring with one from an M2. Other than that, I don't recall any special chants or anything. Oh, wait we sacrificed a rubber chicken, and I had to wear a @#$%^, while he was performing the exoricism. trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) mike.45 I did my own bolt and others for friends.......i took half a pound off of it......take off the forward ear then mill the ejection port side of the bolt down flat....just don't take to much off or you will end up in the carrier portion of the bolt whole...need a little meat there......if you want a little more....take it off the bottom center......and just run a standard recoil spring...... Edited January 12, 2007 by Helmut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_pinto Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Mikey, Quit shootin' so damn fast!! You have been around our Geologist brother too much!! Mike No, not that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Mike, I think the gun decided to slow down to match your shooting, no use waiting around for someone to pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Wow - I must run out and get one of them there Benellis... they ALWAYS work . The more I hear about these Italian POS's, the more comfortable I feel with my lowly 11-87 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) Wow - I must run out and get one of them there Benellis... they ALWAYS work .The more I hear about these Italian POS's, the more comfortable I feel with my lowly 11-87 . Mike needs a couple of springs. Shoot that remmy enough to run with that crowd and see how big your scrap pile of parts is.--------------Larry Edited January 13, 2007 by lkytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Mike, I think the gun decided to slow down to match your shooting OUCH !!! So you mean the gun is just being considerate ? I love these things... will it start to do the laundry and buy beer as well ! I will get a new spring. Benny why did you stick a M2 spring in Traps gun - any particular reason or was that what was at hand ? Brownells only shows two recoil springs, both are for the M1, one is a heavy spring and one is standard - which one would be best mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 All one has to do is look at the amount of posts about Benellis not running and Remingtons not running ( about 15 on Remington to one on the Benelli ) to know which is more reliable. Anything can break, or collapse a spring, but it is the frequency we are worried about. All I can say is that Remington has sold more Benellis than all the duck hunting ads Benelli ever produced. KURTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Mike, I'm sending you a lightened bolt, springs, etc. to fix your benelli. You will buy the beer at SMM3G big time. Need add. to send to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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