sandankenpo Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I am new to shooting open, how hard is it to keep the dot centered in the scope while shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Cutter Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 same here. my red dot tracks up and right from the torque. what things should i check and do to get the dot to track up and down. i can't find any specific answers to my questions using the search function. currently iam using a 5 in. barrel in .38 super w/ a 3 chamber comp and 4 side ports. i'm using 124 gr fmj w/ 8.0gr 3n37 i'm still waiting for the egw conversion cone so i can mount my bedell titanium comp. tyvm to everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10ring Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 (edited) Sounds like we might have two questions here. As far as keeping the dot centered, I think if you just let your mind and body take care of that for you the dot will be close to center. In principle, you don't have to keep the dot in the exact center of the scope to make a shot. That's the beauty of a dot sight. However, if using a C-More for long shots, it's important to place the dot in the center since C-More does have some parralax error. As for getting the dot to track straight up and down. That's not that big a deal either. The important thing is for the dot to return to the place it was just before you broke the shot. It can do figure 8 patterns for that matter ... as long as it returns to the same place. Do you see this sort of thing happening? Edited September 25, 2005 by 10ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Grip and stance changes can chage how the dot moves, as do load changes, recoil spring changes and well, changing most anything. But, the key is seeing the dot automatically return to where it left from. If you can get that, you're good to go. Matt Burkett's timing drills are a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Cutter Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 thank you for the tips guys! eric nielsen replied in another thread about lowering the right edge of the comp to decrease the dot torquing to the right. i'll try to experiment with different grip pressures and stances first and see if the oscillation decreases and the dot lift becomes more straight up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I am new to shooting open, how hard is it to keep the dot centered in the scope while shooting It's very easy to keep the dot in the lens. It's much harder to get it there in the first place, drawing from the holster or otherwise presenting it to the target, especially strong hand or weak hand only. The techniques needed to see the dot when presenting the gun will help keep the dot visible while shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandankenpo Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 same here guys, thanks for the tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Something I have noticed too, single side mounts cause the dot to move more in recoil. Double side mounts tend to show a more stable dot movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 My dot never really stops moving...it's about timing and acceptable sight picture. I think this is why a dot can be slower for some limited shooters at first. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 you have to place your trust somewhere else for the open gun..in this case you have to trust the dot on your scoring surface and let it happen..bang!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 For me its what Steve says, I see the dot all over the place when shooting fast, its just a matter of breaking the shot at the right time and place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Timing drill..timing drills... set up 4 targets and shoot at 7y, 15, 25.45 shoot all A's practice..practice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimini Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 You didn't mention if you have vents in the barrel. That will make a difference. The more holes you have the more gas you need. You may need to try 3n38 as well as N105. Both of these powders are slower than the 3n37 and produce more gas for the comp. The additional gas may tame your recoil. Once you get one that feels good, then it's time to tune the balance. At about 10 yards aim carefully at the a zone center and then do a double tap. Measure the difference between the two shots. If they spread out beyond the a zone, try a heavier spring and repeat the exercise changing the spring weight until you get one that feels good to you and the 2 shot groups don't spread out too much. That should give you some confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Burkett timing drills/group drills. That and understanding the difference between a perfect sight picture and an acceptable one. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmagnus Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Burkett timing drills/group drills. That and understanding the difference between a perfect sight picture and an acceptable one.Rich Where can I find Matt's timming drills. I can't seem to find it on his website anymore. I have a new open gun I want to put thru the paces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshooter Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 This is a little off topic but the Cmore is what you all are talking about sort of in this post i was wondering how do you all clean your lenses? what do you use??? curious thanks for the time Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Contact Matt B., buy his book or DVD's. I got from taking a class with him when I was starting out. Some of the best money spent yet. As for the cleaning the lens, a little windex and tissue paper. Then a lens pen (Leupold) to get the fuzzies and anything left gone. Bling, bling! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmagnus Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 uscbigdawg I sent Matt an email asking for the timing drills but no answer. I most likely caught him out of town and the email mgot lost in cyberspace. I do have most all his videos except this one. His DVD's are awesome. They use to be on his site but my timing is wrong cause they ain't there anymore hence the need. I even printed them out but can't find those either, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I can't find it on Matts site but Saul Kirsch has it on his. Timing Drill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmagnus Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I can't find it on Matts site but Saul Kirsch has it on his.Timing Drill Saweet, exactly what the patient needed. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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