twister Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I am buying a new Sp-01, is a de- cocker model the one for IDPA? Thanks for your help, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyJ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Depends, but probably not... If you are looking to go SSP, you'll need to start hammer down, which I suppose is easier with a decocker...I have 2 CZ 75 variants, none with decockers, and I've started hammer down lots of times, without issue. If you are going ESP, you'll want to start 'cocked and locked' so you'll need a safety... And from what I've heard from those who would know, you can get a better trigger with the safety model...I'd vote no on the decocker... TobyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Easier to update trigger on the safety model, than the decocker one. I shot a SP01 (safety model) and GP X-Cal in production for a year. You get used to easing the hammer down on a live round, never felt the need for a decocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertTortoise Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 IDPA or USPSA I'd get the safety model. For 3 gun I'd get the decocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Thanks for the replies, I’m going with the safety model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoRivera Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) In terms of starting hammer down, the decocker model decocks to the 'half-cock' notch, which gives you a shorter double-action first pull than the full-forward length pull, where the manual-safety model has to start according to rules. Both the manual safety model and decocker can be worked over by places like Cajun Gun Works to get some very nice triggers, but generally you can get the trigger a bit nicer on the Shadow models which are manual safety and no firing pin block, so there isn't the extra bit that lifts the block and you can get a very short pre-travel/reset on the single action break. But again, the regular non-Shadow SP-01's can be tuned very nicely as well. For DIY, no contest....the manual safety models are much easier to disassemble and work on. Edited February 26, 2019 by MoRivera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 The safety model is definitely easier to DIY, but the decocker sear cage isn't that bad after you've done it once and know what's what. I agree with the discussion that the safety model gives a better trigger pull, but I think it falls into the "in theory" territory alongside the over travel trigger screw in that it is such a small difference that when you are actually shooting you won't notice the difference, especially when both are well polished. Changing the hammer spring will give you a much more noticeable difference in trigger feel than the decocker vs safety. So really, IMO, it comes down to whether or not you think that tiny benefit outweighs the extra safety precautions needed to manually let down the hammer during Make Ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I had a Decocker done by CGW with Pro Package and it was good, I sold it to go to TS. If I buy another it will be safety model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
je85 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Decocker models take alot of parts and work to get a good trigger. They also are a pain in the @@$ to work on the sear cage. Safety model will give you more freedom for other divisions and disciplines. Also can be converted to single action very easily for ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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