mich3210 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I just bought a P320x5, which should be here in a few weeks. Since I live in NY I had to go with the 10-round version. Where's the cheapest place to pick up another mag? Since it's the 10-round version, will any P320 Full Size 10-round mag work? What other upgrades would you all suggest? I was thinking about immediately dropping in the GG Competition Trigger. Would this be advisable, or should I get accustomed to the gun before doing so? Do I need to upgrade the Guide Rod and Spring? I'm shooting factory 115gr and 124gr. Lastly, I was planning on topping it with an optic. Would you suggest I do this right from the start, or shoot with iron sights to start? If I do get an optic, I'm going with the Romeo1 in 6moa. For background, I'll be shooting local IDPA, Action Pistol, and maybe some USPSA. I competed last year with a stock H&K VP9 with iron sights. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ173 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I also have a p320 x5 and I already took it out to the range once. The sights were off and I forgot to bring a screwdriver, therefore I didn't shoot it much. I also already purchased the tungsten fat guide rod and 1911 recoil springs and multiple red dots to try out on multiple guns. I also purchased the grip weight for my p320 x carry to test Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Romeo 1 6 moa best I've ever had. Tried the rest, DPP is 2nd but heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, CZ173 said: I also have a p320 x5 and I already took it out to the range once. The sights were off and I forgot to bring a screwdriver, therefore I didn't shoot it much. I also already purchased the tungsten fat guide rod and 1911 recoil springs and multiple red dots to try out on multiple guns. I also purchased the grip weight for my p320 x carry to test Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk You don't need a screwdriver to adjust the X5 rear sight. Just push down (compress the springs) and it will turn with just a fingernail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich406 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: Romeo 1 6 moa best I've ever had. Tried the rest, DPP is 2nd but heavy Im curious, how many rounds do you have on your R1 6MOAs? i think the is sight great, but I have gone through 3 that wouldn’t hold zero past 1000 rounds, and I’ve see two other people that have had the exact same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just opened the 2nd case of bullets, so 3500 of coated at 132Pf another 1000 jacketed and shot up about 2000 old plain lead to get them gone so 6500-6800 give or take a 100 No poa shifts or other problems. Still on same batteries also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: Romeo 1 6 moa best I've ever had. Tried the rest, DPP is 2nd but heavy Ordered one from Optics Planet tonight. They had it listed at $299.99 with free shipping. Found it at a place called BallisticDeals.com for $221.09, plus $8.99 shipping. I was a little skeptical of that place since I had never heard of them and couldn't find many reviews. I decided to give Optics Planet a call, and they matched the $221.09, plus gave me Free Shipping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket99 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Im curious, how many rounds do you have on your R1 6MOAs? i think the is sight great, but I have gone through 3 that wouldn’t hold zero past 1000 rounds, and I’ve see two other people that have had the exact same issue. I have about 6500 rounds on my 6moa Romeo 1. I think the key is to torque them to correct specs and check them monthlySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich406 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, rocket99 said: I have about 6500 rounds on my 6moa Romeo 1. I think the key is to torque them to correct specs and check them monthly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don’t think that was the issue. I torqued the bolts to the recommended 30 inch pounds. Im thinking more likely that sig produced a bad batch of romeo1s. The three I bought, and at least 4 others that had the same problems, came from the exact same seller on amazon. Although losing zero does seem to be the most common issue with R1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I am another vote for the tungsten guide rod and 1911 recoil springs. This change fulfills two goals: heavier weight out front under the barrel and a way to reduce the factory spring for competition loads. Although the OP didnt say if he reloads for minimum power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 12 hours ago, CHLChris said: I am another vote for the tungsten guide rod and 1911 recoil springs. This change fulfills two goals: heavier weight out front under the barrel and a way to reduce the factory spring for competition loads. Although the OP didnt say if he reloads for minimum power. For now I'm running factory ammo... 115gr and 124gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Then, if you go with a tungsten guide rod, perhaps you should go with closer to a factory weight spring. What is that? 14lbs? Something like that. I run a 9lb 1911 recoil spring on my X5 with good results, but then my 125gr ammo is only getting 130 power factor. Factory 115 ammo can be over 140 and 124gr factory ammo is sometimes a lot hotter than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich406 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, CHLChris said: Then, if you go with a tungsten guide rod, perhaps you should go with closer to a factory weight spring. What is that? 14lbs? Something like that. I run a 9lb 1911 recoil spring on my X5 with good results, but then my 125gr ammo is only getting 130 power factor. Factory 115 ammo can be over 140 and 124gr factory ammo is sometimes a lot hotter than that. 9lb? That’s the lightest I’ve heard of someone running. Does it reliably return to battery? Mine wouldn’t with a 12lb.... factory weight is 18lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 @Rich406 Major oops! I was thinking of my 9lb. recoil spring on my 9mm 1911. I run a 14lb. spring on my X5! Good catch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 9:46 AM, CZ173 said: I also have a p320 x5 and I already took it out to the range once. The sights were off and I forgot to bring a screwdriver, therefore I didn't shoot it much. I also already purchased the tungsten fat guide rod and 1911 recoil springs and multiple red dots to try out on multiple guns. I also purchased the grip weight for my p320 x carry to test Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 23 hours ago, CHLChris said: I am another vote for the tungsten guide rod and 1911 recoil springs. This change fulfills two goals: heavier weight out front under the barrel and a way to reduce the factory spring for competition loads. Although the OP didnt say if he reloads for minimum power. I'll look into the tungsten guide rod and a 14# or 15# spring. Thanks for the info. I'll probably run stock to start but will be upgrading those and the trigger within a few months I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Definitely do the trigger upgrade. I’ve been working pretty hard with my X5’s for 18 months, never quite getting the performance in terms of speed and accuracy I have been getting with my custom .45 ACP 1911’s even though it’s minor caliber, and my 1911’s are always run well over 165 PF. I figured that 30 years of carrying really good single actions needed retraining for the relatively crappy trigger on the X5, but I never quite got to where I wanted to be. Dropped in the Grayguns competition kits this week, and boom. Unbelievable difference. For the first time I’m much faster and more accurate on standard drills than I was with ol’ slabsides. Do some homework before going for the tungsten guide rods, a few people have been peening the hell out of their barrel lugs with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Archer said: Definitely do the trigger upgrade. I’ve been working pretty hard with my X5’s for 18 months, never quite getting the performance in terms of speed and accuracy I have been getting with my custom .45 ACP 1911’s even though it’s minor caliber, and my 1911’s are always run well over 165 PF. I figured that 30 years of carrying really good single actions needed retraining for the relatively crappy trigger on the X5, but I never quite got to where I wanted to be. Dropped in the Grayguns competition kits this week, and boom. Unbelievable difference. For the first time I’m much faster and more accurate on standard drills than I was with ol’ slabsides. Do some homework before going for the tungsten guide rods, a few people have been peening the hell out of their barrel lugs with them. Thanks for the info. Without a doubt will be doing a GG Comp Kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 If I go with the Flat trigger from Gray Guns will that keep me in the Production / SSP classes/divisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, mich3210 said: If I go with the Flat trigger from Gray Guns will that keep me in the Production / SSP classes/divisions? You can run a hot pink aftermarket trigger in Production. It’s IDPA you have to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, mich3210 said: If I go with the Flat trigger from Gray Guns will that keep me in the Production / SSP classes/divisions? 6 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: You can run a hot pink aftermarket trigger in Production. It’s IDPA you have to worry about. SSP: no, external trigger has to be factory; internal mods no problem ESP: yes Actually ... the rulebook does not explicitly rule out aftermarket triggers for SSP. However it does say that no visible external modifications are allowed. I believe that along with the other trigger related discussion in the "SSP permitted modications list" is understood to imply no aftermarket triggers. YMMV, please correct me if I'm wrong. Edited January 21, 2019 by ddc clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, ddc said: SSP: no, external trigger has to be factory; internal mods no problem ESP: yes Just thought about it, and I'm going to be running an R1 on my X5, which puts me in CO.... CO follows ESP if I'm not mistaken. So the GG kit would be good to go. Am I thinking about this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think you are ok. I think the recently updated IDPA CO rules say that CO follows ESP however I haven't paid a lot of attention as I am doing USPSA/Production and IDPA/ESP only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich3210 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Flat-faced trigger or curved? What do most prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I've got 2 flats. Actually would like to try a curved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSigCZ Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) I developed the Armory Craft flat trigger for Sig hammer fired pistols with Milos. As such, the first time I m ever used a flat trigger was during all the prototype development and testing. I did not like a flatty at first (it was “so different”), however, after a couple thousand rounds fired during testing and development, I now greatly prefer a flat trigger. To me it is much more “stable” and my finger position on it is much more repeatable (my finger returns to a consistent position on the shoe). In addition, the ability to go lower on a flatty creates a longer moment arm, thereby decreasing the amount of force required to pull the trigger. If you are new to them, try a flat trigger for a minimum of 1,000 rounds over a period of weeks - shooting only the flatty, not switching back and forth to a curved one - to really determine what you like, what feels most comfortable, which one works best for you and which one you feel most confident with. Those are my $.02 for you to consider. Edited January 22, 2019 by DCSigCZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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