Sigarmsp226 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) I run a Dillon 650 with Dillon carbide dies and I am guessing I have loaded about 20k rounds on these dies....I have the resizing/decapping die set just to the point it is touching the shell plate on the up cycle. I sort my brass and have been loading a batch of Blazer brass and about one out of every ten to twelve pieces of this brass is NOT depriming..... Anyone ever experience the depriming rod on your Dillon dies wearing out? It is not broken and like I said it deprimes about nine out of every ten with about 8 - 10 rounds per hundred not depriming....Thanks. Mark Edited November 25, 2018 by Sigarmsp226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 More than likely, it is de-priming, but the pin is grabbing the primer and pulling it back into the brass. Bevel the tip of the primer punch just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GringoBandito Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I have seen this with wet tumbled brass and I switched to the lee sizer with a squirrel daddy pin and the issue went away. The pin could be worn down or the spring at the top of the die may need to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys for your replies... Grumpy - I will give your idea a try first because I can hear the pin making contact with the primer..I bet this is what is happening...If your idea does not work I will try looking at Gringo’s suggestion....I do clean my brass with SS pins... Thanks again. Mark Edited November 26, 2018 by Sigarmsp226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sigarmsp226 said: Thanks guys for your replies... Grumpy - I will give your idea a try first because I can hear the pin making contact with the primer..I bet thisnisnwhat is happening...If your idea does not work I will try looking at Gringo’s suggestion.... Thanks again. Mark Yeah, just put a little angle on the tip of the pin. I recently bent my Dillon pin during case prep for wet tumble. I had a bevel on it. Had not had a depriming issue in many thousands of rounds. Put the new pin in and figured I didn't need to bevel it since I only use it for depriming and its easy enough just to pull it out and drop in the case feed tube for a redo. Probably happens every 25-30 rounds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Guys. This worked. Took the pin out and placed a small bevil on the tip and ran about 20 pieces of brass that had previously reflected my issue and this time they all de-primmed like normal..... Thanks again to your quick support on this simple but frustrating issue.....All good now....Back to loading...Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Sarge - Non-related topic...Thanks Sir for your service....I have a son currently stationed in Germany in the Air Force and could not be more proud of he and his family... Thanks again Sir.....Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sigarmsp226 said: Sarge -.Thanks Sir for your service....I have a son currently stationed in Germany in the Air Force Thanks to him as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A4ME Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Had the same issue with my new RCBS 9MM carbide resizing die and blazer 9MM brass. The little angle grind from tip to one side fixed it. No idea why it only did it with Blazer brass. As someone else mentioned, my Lee carbide resizing 9MM die never had an issue with any brass brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25gramsjohnsonandjohnson Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 It’s the anvil in the primer. The anvil is kind of shaped like a 3 pointed star. And can very in size from component manufactures that sells the cup, primer compound , and anvil. Since they can very in size and placement in the cup. So when your pin goes through the flash hole it lands in the area where the anvil is not and catches and doesn’t kick out the primer. The Dillon dies use a spring style decapper designed to pop out the primmer with assistance of the spring. I’m not in my gun room to look at the dies. See if you can screw down the decaping pin. If you can’t then you need to template the pin since it’s just worn out engouh for that manufacture of that primer. In the mean time. Unscrew the pin and gently peen the end with a hammer that will dent the pin and make it a hair longer it may take a few try but it’s the cheap way till you can get a new one in from Dillion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 59 minutes ago, 25gramsjohnsonandjohnson said: It’s the anvil in the primer. The anvil is kind of shaped like a 3 pointed star. And can very in size from component manufactures that sells the cup, primer compound , and anvil. Since they can very in size and placement in the cup. So when your pin goes through the flash hole it lands in the area where the anvil is not and catches and doesn’t kick out the primer. The Dillon dies use a spring style decapper designed to pop out the primmer with assistance of the spring. I’m not in my gun room to look at the dies. See if you can screw down the decaping pin. If you can’t then you need to template the pin since it’s just worn out engouh for that manufacture of that primer. In the mean time. Unscrew the pin and gently peen the end with a hammer that will dent the pin and make it a hair longer it may take a few try but it’s the cheap way till you can get a new one in from Dillion It really is the pin. It's a very well documented problem with very well documented fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExStreetWalker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Do your Dillon 9mm dies have the spring loaded decapping pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 19 hours ago, ExStreetWalker said: Do your Dillon 9mm dies have the spring loaded decapping pin? Yes Sir they do...Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJ Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 7:14 PM, Sigarmsp226 said: .I do clean my brass with SS pins... Do you clean with the primers in and then dry the brass? If so, this is your issue. The solution will glue the primer into the pocket and greatly increase the number of pull-backs. When I automated my 1050 (with an AmmoBot), I was having this issue bad. Went back to dry media tumbling, the pull-backs almost went away completely. Other things to try: - Chisel pin end (as already mentioned) - polish pin end - connect vacuum to primer chute tube. (I have had mixed results with this, but most commercial brass processors do this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Greg - Thanks Sir - I had no idea this could occur. I apprecite your feedback and comments...Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 11:43 PM, Sarge said: It really is the pin. It's a very well documented problem with very well documented fixes. Yep...and I think trying to peen the pin may break it. The Dillon pins are very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) I did what Sarge suggested and took the pin assembly out and carefully ground (bevil) one side without losing any length and after that I tried it on 20+ pieces of brass that previously had their primers sucked back up into their primer opening so thanks to you guys I think this fixed my issue...Will be loading another 1k rounds this weekend with a portion of those being blaser brass.....so time will tell... Thanks again to everyone for your comments and recommendations....I greatly apprecite all of the support here.....Mark Edited November 29, 2018 by Sigarmsp226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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