Tokarev Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Probably not likely to replace the Dillon 650 or Hornady Lock N Load on anyone's bench. But it might work as a second press for processing brass or for loading ammo that's not your primary competition cartridge. Stolen from Titan Reloading's Facebook page: Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom S. Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Although I'm not a Lee fanboy, I can see some attraction to this system, primarily the die bushing system. It would be nice to have something like this on the Dillon 550/650, but I don't know if that's possible without having to resize the presses. Other than that, I wasn't overly impressed, but again, if I was more into Lee products, I'm sure I'd be more excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 The longer I reload, the less I use Lee Precision products (I do use some). Looks like a toy compared to a Dillon. I am sure the Lee warranty will reflect its quality, what is it 1 year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSki Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 12glocks said: The longer I reload, the less I use Lee Precision products (I do use some). Looks like a toy compared to a Dillon. I am sure the Lee warranty will reflect its quality, what is it 1 year? 2 Years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieDoc Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 8 hours ago, 12glocks said: The longer I reload, the less I use Lee Precision products (I do use some). Looks like a toy compared to a Dillon. I am sure the Lee warranty will reflect its quality, what is it 1 year? That's not really a fair comparison of Lee products. The price reflects the warranty because you pay for the warranty with others brands. Without naming names but green and orange come to mind, some of those "lifetime" warranties aren't as easy to access as the net would have you believe. The few times I've had to deal with Lee "out of warranty", they have been very generous. I have over a dozen cartidge presses (not including shotshell) of all colors and my most used single stage press is the Lee Classic cast. I have 3 Hornady powder measures courtesy of the LNL APs they came with and I use Lee Autodrums on those presses. I bought every brand of 9mm die in my quest for perfection for reloading on a progressive. I mix and match and ended using Lee FLS and expand/powder drop. I intend buying one of these Breech Lock Pro once they have been around a while, just to speed up FLS/depriming and preliminary neck expanding of 38/357 before they get tumble washed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdr Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 There are certain Lee products that are worth every dime and not because of the warranty. The classic turret press is hard to beat for the price, functionality and longevity. Their dies are hard to beat as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The classic cast single stage is really well built and handles spent primers better than any other. https://leeprecision.com/classic-cast-press.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 That's not really a fair comparison of Lee products. The price reflects the warranty because you pay for the warranty with others brands. Without naming names but green and orange come to mind, some of those "lifetime" warranties aren't as easy to access as the net would have you believe. The few times I've had to deal with Lee "out of warranty", they have been very generous. I have over a dozen cartidge presses (not including shotshell) of all colors and my most used single stage press is the Lee Classic cast. I have 3 Hornady powder measures courtesy of the LNL APs they came with and I use Lee Autodrums on those presses. I bought every brand of 9mm die in my quest for perfection for reloading on a progressive. I mix and match and ended using Lee FLS and expand/powder drop. I intend buying one of these Breech Lock Pro once they have been around a while, just to speed up FLS/depriming and preliminary neck expanding of 38/357 before they get tumble washed. My experience with Lee and expired warranties has also been good. Plus they'll send you small maintenance parts for free as long as you pick up the shipping. The Auto Drum works great and throws a consistent charge with pretty much everying I've tried. The exception here has been trying to get it to throw small charges of Red Dot. While recently trying to load 3.0 grains, I found I was getting weights as low as 1.7 grains. I can see using a press like the new Auto Breech as a dedicated brass processing machine. That way the priming system could be ignored and the press would likely to as fast as any other manual press for this application. Speaking of brass processing; I wonder if the press would handle swaging. Could a swager be made that replaces the primer seater punch? Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Speaking of the Auto Drum; has anyone used this? https://dramworx.com/lee/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdr Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Tokarev said: My experience with Lee and expired warranties has also been good. Plus they'll send you small maintenance parts for free as long as you pick up the shipping. The Auto Drum works great and throws a consistent charge with pretty much everying I've tried. The exception here has been trying to get it to throw small charges of Red Dot. While recently trying to load 3.0 grains, I found I was getting weights as low as 1.7 grains. I can see using a press like the new Auto Breech as a dedicated brass processing machine. That way the priming system could be ignored and the press would likely to as fast as any other manual press for this application. Speaking of brass processing; I wonder if the press would handle swaging. Could a swager be made that replaces the primer seater punch? Great question. I would love a moderately priced brass processing press for 223. Thinking of an onboard Swager and a Dillon 1500 trimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlvrDragon50 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Tokarev said: Speaking of the Auto Drum; has anyone used this? https://dramworx.com/lee/ Use it on my Hornady, great upgrade over the terrible degraded plastic hopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Use it on my Hornady, great upgrade over the terrible degraded plastic hopper.I just ordered one for my Auto Drum. The factory one works okay for pistol but it doesn't hold more than about a half a pound of powder. That small quantity goes pretty quick when I'm loading rifle. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Great question. I would love a moderately priced brass processing press for 223. Thinking of an onboard Swager and a Dillon 1500 trimmer. I haven't seen an Auto Breech yet so I gave to wonder. I assume the ram is a steel rod with a hole down the center for spent primers. It is probably stout enough to handle swaging. I suppose the biggest problem is likely to be the shell plate carrier. If it is aluminum like the one on the Pro1000 it probably won't take the force from constant swaging. I think I'll send an email to Lee Precision this morning to express my idea. See what they have to say. I can't imagine making a swage punch would be terribly expensive. If it works I really think they'd have a money maker on their hands. Who wouldn't want a $105 progressive press that can be used to rework military brass???Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 I haven't seen an Auto Breech yet so I gave to wonder. I assume the ram is a steel rod with a hole down the center for spent primers. It is probably stout enough to handle swaging. I suppose the biggest problem is likely to be the shell plate carrier. If it is aluminum like the one on the Pro1000 it probably won't take the force from constant swaging. I think I'll send an email to Lee Precision this morning to express my idea. See what they have to say. I can't imagine making a swage punch would be terribly expensive. If it works I really think they'd have a money maker on their hands. Who wouldn't want a $105 progressive press that can be used to rework military brass???Sent from my SM-G930P using TapatalkEmail sent and reply already received:The ABLP is made out of steel so can withstand just about anything. I will pass along the suggestion for the pocket swager idea. Not sure if it will come to fruition but it's something to think about!You are able to use the Quick Trim system on the press. You would just need to deactivate the auto indexing and be sure to clean out the brass shavings from the Carrier.Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdr Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/18/2018 at 7:00 AM, Tokarev said: Email sent and reply already received: The ABLP is made out of steel so can withstand just about anything. I will pass along the suggestion for the pocket swager idea. Not sure if it will come to fruition but it's something to think about! You are able to use the Quick Trim system on the press. You would just need to deactivate the auto indexing and be sure to clean out the brass shavings from the Carrier. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Thanks for doing that...It would be great to see Lee respond with a pocket swager for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thanks for doing that...It would be great to see Lee respond with a pocket swager for it. I imagine a phone call or a few emails from other interested customers might help spur the idea along. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdr Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvincent Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Still needs a hold down rod though. It would be just like the 650 with a swage it. I’m really hoping dillons new CP1000 is priced right for a process machine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdr Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 12 hours ago, xdr said: Just did... And here is the reply: We are working on a new press with that in mind. Stay tuned!Thanks,Andy LeeLee Precision Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT1 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Pretty hard to keep a good thing down. If this press ends up anywhere near as good as their classic cast original single stage and turret they will sell a boatload of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 And here is the reply:We are working on a new press with that in mind. Stay tuned!Thanks,Andy LeeLee Precision Inc. Well, even better. A press built for brass processing that's sub-$200? Heck Yeah! Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 These things appear to be selling okay. Already sold out at Mid South and Titan. Or maybe the initial shipments coming out of the factory are just a few. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 It could be really speeded up by priming the cases prior to the loading operation. Also, a real solid mount would help (as he pointed out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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